The Watchtower of Destruction: The Ferrett's Journal - Infidelity And The Four Types Of Cheaters
October 15th, 2007
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Infidelity And The Four Types Of Cheaters

A friend of mine asked me to write on infidelity last week… And that’s a pretty big topic. In fact, this is gonna be at least two parts.

So here’s what I know about cheating. If your partner fucks around on the side, and they don’t leave immediately once you’ve discovered it, you have two choices: Leave or stay.

Leaving’s a fine option. I’m not being callous here, but once that trust is violated, it’s damned hard to rebuild it. There are a lot of relationships that can’t withstand the problems of trust that come up afterwards, and being honest and going, “Nope, that’s a dealbreaker” can stave off a lot of future heartbreak.

But mistakes do happen. It’d be nice to think that people only do smart things, but people fuck up once in a while – and while cheating’s a pretty major fuckup, it’s often one fuckup in the middle of years of good being-together time. It’s hard to leave someone you love and are suited to. So here’s the best advice I have for you. If you choose to stay, remember this:

If you want to make a relationship work after you’ve discovered that your partner’s cheated on you, you must totally forgive your partner.

That’s right; if you choose to stay, you have to agree that the cheating will never be used as a weapon against her (or him, or whatever). It’s off the table. You have to genuinely call a no-fault and let it go.

Now, that sounds strange, but I’ve experienced first-hand what happens when you don’t forgive. I was in a long-term relationship where my girlfriend cheated on me, and I stayed… But I didn’t forgive. I always held it against her a little, and as a result I always thought she owed me a little for what she did. That owing made every subsequent argument that much harder. She was upset because she was dating someone who she could never do enough to make it up to him – and let’s be honest, she couldn’t. Whereas I was upset because I felt that she always had to give me her A-game because she cheated on me. And while we stayed together for a long time after that, it was never really good.

What’ll often happen if you can’t let it go is that she’ll cheat again, because she’s still miserable. Or you’ll cheat, because you feel like you’re owed one, and the only way to get out from under that is to equalize the revenge, which isn’t particularly healthy.

I wanted to write a comedy skit about that dynamic:

ME: “Hey, get me a Coke? I don’t feel like getting up.”

HER: “I’m in the bathroom.”

ME: “Given that you cheated on me, I thought you’d be a little more responsive in this relationship. You promised you’d - ”

HER: “Here’s your Coke, you asshole.”

The trick is, of course, that you’re not going to forget what happened. That’s impossible. There are going to be nights where she’s out and you’re shit-scared that oh no, this is happening again, and that sucks. There will be times you’ll be kissing him and suddenly you’ll remember that he was kissing her, and you’ll get angry.

Naturally, just pretending that this didn’t happen and everything is fine now is going to lead to ruin. You have to discuss it – but there’s a fine line in how you discuss it. You have to be able to say, “Wow, I’m really insecure because I’m remembering what happened” and not “Christ, I’m insecure because you did this to me.” You have to be able to say, “This seems like the kind of situation that led to cheating before, and I’m really uncomfortable with this,” and not “Oh God, you’re doing it again.”

That’s a mighty fine line – bringing up the issues caused by the cheating without ever being angry at the cheating.

And that’s gonna be suicidal unless you can determine one critically important fact:

Is he/she going to cheat again?

If you go to all the trouble of forgiving this person and they fuck around again, then it’s even worse. Bad enough feeling chumped once, but twice? Lordy, you just wanna throw your head in a pit.

The only way you can forget – and a surprising number of people do – is to actually get to a place where you’re pretty sure it’s not going to happen again. And to do that, you have to understand why they cheated, and what led to that.

The good news is that there are four basic types of cheating partners.

(Note: A preponderance of he or shes is not intended. But frankly, it’s really fucking tiring to have to alternate “he” and “she” all the damn time so that everyone thinks that I’ve covered the bingo card in an even manner. Regardless of pronoun, any gender can cheat.)

1) The Serial Cheater.
These folks are always on the make, and are pretty obvious about it – flirting heavily with anyone who catches their eye and making subtle offers at every turn. They never act like they’re committed, even in the early stages of the relationship, and go out of their way not to mention their partner (or downplay their partner’s part in their lives).

The good news is that you’re not likely to commit to one of these, because you have to bury your head pretty deep in the sand to ignore the signs. Usually, the only people who are foolish enough to marry them have fine-tuned their skills at ignoring all the rumors going about… Which means, in a weird way, that the two of you are bizarrely compatible.

2) The Tarzan.
This person can’t just end a relationship and have nowhere to go – they have to make sure they have someone waiting for them when they leave. There comes a point when the Tarzan cheater is so dissatisfied with his partner that he’s basically decided it’s over… But being alone is so terrifying that he can’t bear to just call it off, like any sane person would.

So rather than leaping into the void, he tolerates his partner’s odious habits… At least until he can latch onto someone else. Then, once he finds them, he leaves Old Partner for New Partner, transitioning smoothly into a new dynamic.

Like Tarzan swinging from vine to vine, the Tarzan cheater swings from relationship to relationship.

The strange thing about the Tarzan is that they generally cheat only once on each partner – right at the end, when they’ve found someone who’s better. In this case, the cheating isn’t so much a violation of your relationship as it is a way of ensuring that it can’t be restarted. Shitty, but true.

The good news, if you want to call it that, is that the Tarzan cheater is unlikely to ever be happy. The Tarzan cheater doesn’t actually commit to a relationship – given that he’s always quietly looking to trade up, he never actually manages to give anything of worth to the person he theoretically loves. He’ll live off of brief surges of New Relationship Energy for awhile, then discover that his new partner is almost as much a pain in the ass as his last one was.

The Tarzan Cheater tends to spend years in dissatisfied hibernation, waiting for some better girl to come along while he endures the quirks of his current partner. Commitment means willing to change your partner and be changed in return, and since he’s not willing to do the latter he’ll never get the former.

But that doesn’t hurt any less when the Tarzan leaves.

3) The Wild Oat-Sower.
This sort of cheater is generally looking to explore some sort of need she’s never experienced before – something she can’t find within the confines of her relationship with her current partner.

The things a Wild Oat-Sower wants to experience vary. Sometimes, it’s just a woman who married early who needs to find out what other sexual partners are like. In poly relationships, sometimes, it’s a woman who is tired of playing the good girl all the time and wants to discover what happens when she has sex with someone without her husband’s permission.

It can even as specific as a type of person. If a girl’s always attracted to a kind of person who her husband loathes, she might sleep with a guy like that to find out whether it’s all it’s cracked up to be.

The weird thing about Wild Oat-Sowing cheating experience is that sometimes, they can actually improve the relationship. Yes, the pain of cheating hurts if they’re discovered – but assuming they go to the other side and find the grass isn’t necessarily greener, they’re often far more appreciative of what they have. Which, in turn, can lead to greater commitments.

So if a Wild Oat-Sower has scratched that particular itch (and doesn’t find that whoah, this was way better than she thought), that’s often the end of it. It takes a long time to work through for the cheated partner, but consider it that one time at band camp.

4) The Desperate Housewife.
This cheater is really unhappy with the way things are going – but not so unhappy that she’s willing to end the relationship. She still loves you, but there are a lot of things that you aren’t giving her… And that’s making her deeply unhappy. So she’s trying to fill in the gaps by finding people who are fulfilling her needs.

Generally, she’s rebelling against you by having sex with someone who is your polar opposite – if you’re a control freak, she’s screwing the dirty hippie she met at the festival. If you’re a laid-back slacker, she’s dorkin’ the Yuppie with the severe career ambitions. Depending on how bad your relationship is, sometimes she’s even screwing your worst enemy because she knows you hate that and she wonders, deep down, whether there’s something of interest to be found in that loathing.

It’s dysfunctional, sure, but it’s what happens when all other communications break down. This is a way of her showing that she really hates what you’re doing – and guess what? You are doing something wrong. People in content relationships generally don’t cheat, which means that there’s something drastically wrong with not just her, but both of you.

If you catch her in mid-act, she says she wants to make this work. Strangely enough, she does. This is the sign that you need to bring something new to your dynamic.

The problem with Desperate Housewives is that what they say they want is often divorced from what they actually want. These are people who may be afraid to ask for what they really need, or believe deep down that “good” relationships have an ESP where their man should instinctively know these things, or they may just be so non-self-reflective that they genuinely don’t have the faintest clue what would actually make them happy.

Regardless, if you want to make this work, you have to discover what’s lacking in your dynamic that made them feel like they had to go elsewhere. Yes, they’re at fault for cheating, and that makes you less willing to change. But if you want to make it work, you need to discover what the real problems are… And quickly.

Temporary Conclusion:
There are your basic cheaters. Now here’s the trick.

When caught, a #4 almost always claims to be a #3.

More on that tomorrow.

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From:[info]iscari0t
Date:October 15th, 2007 12:20 pm (UTC)
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I'm looking forward to the next edition of this. Thank you. =)
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From:[info]bart_calendar
Date:October 15th, 2007 12:50 pm (UTC)
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Of course, a way to avoid all this stuff is for you and your partner to admit, at the start, that humans are not naturally monogamous and accept that flings will happen and simply be honest about that and not lie to your partner.

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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 15th, 2007 12:57 pm (UTC)
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Not really. This assumes that your partner sleeping with anyone he or she chooses, regardless of how damaging that relationship may be to yours, is something that's acceptable to everyone. Which it isn't, and in some cases quite rightfully so.

You may note I mentioned cheating in poly relationships, or swingers. Just because you allow flings doesn't mean that you've somehow inoculated yourself.
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From:[info]kibbles
Date:October 15th, 2007 12:52 pm (UTC)
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I guess I was closest to a #4. Or not. I was angry, he was a douchebag, ending it was too complex legally. We were too lazy to end it. Maybe I was a combo of 2 and 4.

But we got past it, and he doesn't bring it up. OTHER people bring it up. His brother will still try to hurt us by saying something like "so, the travel agent tell you about the sale on plane tickets to England?"

No one can understand why he took me back. People who knew how he was acting, can't understand why I *went* back. I'll always have to live with the reputation as the 'bad guy', but in reality, the situation was intolerable. A bit more money for a lawyer and we would not be married now. Not because I cheated, but because of what he did to drive me to that. At the time I would have rather had a divorce than a boyfriend, but that wasn't possible. Not the best way to handle it but it worked out, eventually.

And we're coming up on 3 kids and a decade later (17 in total) so I guess we're over it. I am, he seems to be.
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From:[info]uglybuffy
Date:October 15th, 2007 01:09 pm (UTC)
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Can I request a subheading: Should The Cheater Tell The Cheatee?
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From:[info]phizzled
Date:October 15th, 2007 01:35 pm (UTC)
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Without waiting for his response, I would say that it's going to be very fact dependent. More times than not, disclosure will help save or terminate the relationship, and those things are healthier (to the relationship) than continuing the cheating or leaving one party feeling guilty and ashamed around their partner.

But there will also be times where that isn't the case. Under Ferrett's regime, the Sower might be better off not admitting to infidelity if he's right about how a disappointing affair impacts the first/primary relationship.
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From:[info]phizzled
Date:October 15th, 2007 01:21 pm (UTC)

A+ post, will read again

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I haven't cheated on a girl since high school, but the cheater categories you've set up are remarkably appropriate for a lot of people in disgruntled relationships.

I'm sometimes Tarzan, and sometimes a Serial cheater without actually being a cheater. I think my current girlfriend is a desperate housewife, but I don't think she's at a point where she'll dump me or cheat on me. [It's wild because I keep asking her to talk to me more, but she really does think I should just know what's going on in her mouth.]
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From:[info]phizzled
Date:October 15th, 2007 01:21 pm (UTC)

edit: fsck

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*It's wild because I keep asking her to talk to me more, but she really does think I should just know what's going on in her mind.

[she thinks he's out of touch]
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From:[info]mymichelle
Date:October 15th, 2007 02:17 pm (UTC)
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Thank you. I'm looking forward to reading the rest.
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From:[info]ewin
Date:October 15th, 2007 02:18 pm (UTC)
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I humbly suggest a category #5: The Addict.

There are several permutations of this, one of them the daytime-talkshow variety of person who just can't seem to keep their pants on no matter who is in the room, but I'm thinking more along the lines of someone who has a deep chemical attachment to one particular person. She can't be around him without her brain falling out of her ear, and she can't have a relationship with him because it turns into a life-shattering disaster every time (for whatever reason you like, but let's face it, the person who really trips our switch is just as often the person we should never, ever be with).

So she attempts healthy relationships with decent people. And screws up, repeatedly. Because the addiction doesn't really ever go away... you can't move far enough away, you can't delete that phone number out of your own memory. If you can't control your own inclinations, you'll always get re-hooked. And if you could control your inclinations, you wouldn't be an addict.

Healthy people generally don't cheat if they are content with the relationship. For an addict, that rule does not apply.

Not sure I have any advice for that.
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From:[info]roniliquidity
Date:October 15th, 2007 03:12 pm (UTC)
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Seriously? Cut off all contact, period, the end. Delete the numbers, delete the emails, don't re-establish contact even if you try and convince yourself it's for an innocent reason. You'll forget eventually.
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From:[info]bonerici
Date:October 15th, 2007 02:49 pm (UTC)
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i know you're the expert here, but isn't there a class for cheaters which includes "damaged goods" the kind of person who is super needy, convinced of his own worthlessness, who requires sex not for its own sake, but because sex allows intimacy and the very act of sex causes a type of validation, a sense of worth in a life that is otherwise worthless? Someone who is needy like this cheats because he can't help it, there's a sense of terrible depression which overpowers any normal sense of caution, there's a feeling, of if I don't find someone who wants me, I really will die, so I might as well have an affair.

your cheaters seem for the most, if not actually happy, at least well adjusted.
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 15th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
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You're way ahead of me.

Wait for tomorrow.
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From:[info]directordale
Date:October 15th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
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Very well said.

1. I'm not sure about people not being likely to commit to serial cheaters. I think serial cheaters are another category of "bad boy"TM and lots of women of all ages stay attracted to the bad boys. I've heard lots of young women go for the serial cheater type and say stuff like "I can change him" etc. It also seems like the serial cheater can overlap with types 2-4 very easily. People stay in bad marriages and relationships for all sorts of reasons. It is not just a matter of love and attraction.

2. I've known male and female tarzans. I'm not sure if actual cheating is involved but I've known people to immediately end on very serious relationship and start another serious relationship in the same day. Tarzans give me headaches and I have a hard time with them in my friend circles because they always want you to treat their new partner like a lifetime member of the gang immediately.

When caught, a #4 almost always claims to be a #3.

I know someone via the net who is exactly like this. Presuming she is telling the truth she tells me about her escapes in very explicit details. On a scarier note, she really wants to have sex with me and make me one of her lovers.

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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 15th, 2007 08:38 pm (UTC)
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Tarzans give me headaches and I have a hard time with them in my friend circles because they always want you to treat their new partner like a lifetime member of the gang immediately.

But of course. They want to feel that they have a normal life, and not something that's fucked-up. I was a Tarzan, and I pulled that shit all the time.
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From:[info]orejen
Date:October 15th, 2007 03:02 pm (UTC)

Ex-Tarzan

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I was a Tarzan, briefly. I didn't have the guts to leave my abusive marriage until someone wanted to rescue me. Needless to say, that didn't last.

I started to repeat my pattern with my current boyfriend. I had this mental image of how a relationship was "supposed" to go, with moving in together within a year, marriage within 3 years...and he didn't want timetables.

Someone I had dated after my divorce and I had remained friends with let me know he was willing to offer me marriage, a child, everything if I just gave him another chance, and it looked oh so very attractive.

I tried to break up with my boyfriend and he...talked to me, he didn't dump me, he didn't put me down, he didn't look down at me, he just talked to me and suddenly I realized that if I couldn't have all of those things with him, that I didn't really want them with anyone else either.

We've been together 14 months now. We don't live together, and after my attempt to jump ship I sure don't expect marriage any time soon! But we love each other, respect each other, and always have a great time together.

He is the one guy in this whole world who has never let me down, who saw something lovable in me even when I didn't feel lovable. There is no one on this world I could possibly "trade up" to.

I had to be willing to let go of old patterns and old insecurities however. I had to stop seeing him through ex-colored lenses. I had to let go of being scared to talk, rather than hiding and running away from conflict.

It was totally worth it.
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From:[info]treelife
Date:October 18th, 2007 05:10 am (UTC)

Re: Ex-Tarzan

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I'm glad you're working hard at the relationship and making changes to your paradigm and life. When you've found something that is worth it, fight for it!
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From:[info]roniliquidity
Date:October 15th, 2007 03:16 pm (UTC)
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You wanted to avoid conflict you started in on infidelity? *boggle*
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 15th, 2007 08:39 pm (UTC)
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It hasn't been conflictual. Sadly, I know what pushes my audience's buttons.
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From:[info]katzinoire
Date:October 15th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)

Unrelated, but thought you'd liike this

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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 15th, 2007 08:39 pm (UTC)

Re: Unrelated, but thought you'd liike this

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I saw that. Still love it, though.
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From:[info]funwithrage
Date:October 15th, 2007 04:50 pm (UTC)
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Honestly, I think I'd be the least likely to put up with Type 4. Because it wouldn't be the cheating, per se, that bugged me--whose Slot B you're sticking your Tab A in is really not a concern--or even the lying. It's that ESP crap.

If you have a problem, you figure out what it is. Then you tell me. If you don't do that, it's not my problem.

If you're old enough to fuck, you're too old to believe in ESP. And life is too short to date passive-aggressive fucktards.
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 15th, 2007 08:39 pm (UTC)
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That assumes that every #4 is an ESP problem. Which it isn't.
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From:[info]dr_pipe
Date:October 15th, 2007 04:50 pm (UTC)
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This is an interesting list...

I've never cheated (in fact in my relationship we consider ourselves poly but neither of us has yet been with anyone else), but I do see aspects of myself in all of these cheater types... Not that I want to cheat dishonestly, but your cheater psychology types also do a good job describing some of the motivations I'm seeing in myself to actually begin to seek out someone(s) to act on the poly thing with.

For me, these profiles are not so much something you are or aren't; they're aspects that surface to a greater or lesser extent depending on how you feel. But it's definately an interesting look at things. Thinking about how descriptions of other types of people can apply in some degree to one's self is a good introspection tool, for me anyway...
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 15th, 2007 08:40 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, they're not absolute; they're just basic categories to put people in so you can help analyze it a little clearer. There is some crossover, as we'll see tomorrow.

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From:[info]cz_unit
Date:October 15th, 2007 07:59 pm (UTC)
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Interesting. You might want to add the "I've got a secret" class: People who like to cheat not for the rewards, but for the thrill of doing something "bad". Makes for great apologies when caught followed by equally great make-up sex. Wash, rinse, repeat.

BTDT.

CZ
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From:[info]glowing_dragon
Date:October 15th, 2007 08:39 pm (UTC)
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Oh goodness. I see aspects of myself in #4 - right now, I'm going through something in my own relationship. He thinks I have feelings for another (at times, I think I might), and of course doesn't want to feel sick about it. I think the reason I have feelings for this other person is that HE was a friend first and seemed very understanding. I don't know what to do. Current boyfriend seems very sensitive and such... and has weird ways of making me feel safe and secure. "I'm telling you all this stuff about my being upset so you can feel safe!" Honey, it doesn't work that way with me. I do care and understand your feelings, but sometimes you're not giving me what I want. Yes, I'm aware it's a COUPLE thing, but still...

Then again, we've only been dating for 3.5 months long-distance (only a 90-minute drive apart), and been fighting for some time over this and other issues... so what do I know? NOTHING!
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From:[info]jmfunnyface
Date:October 15th, 2007 09:03 pm (UTC)
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This was an interesting read for me especially since I found out last week that my boyfriend of 7 years was cheating on me (we broke up, obviously) with a girl he dated for 6 months when she was 14 and he was 18 because at 14 she was his "ideal woman."
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From:[info]zandperl
Date:October 15th, 2007 10:52 pm (UTC)
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When caught, a #4 almost always claims to be a #3.

Can the cheater him/her self always tell which one they were?
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From:[info]cynicalcleric
Date:October 16th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
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I would be curious to know statistically how many people only cheat once (assuming the relationship doesn't end immediately/shortly after the cheating is discovered, as that would prevent them from having an opportunity).

Personally, I think cheating - especially sexually and especially in a marriage - is completely unforgiveable and the equivilent of announcing you are in fact not just a person but also a piece of shit.

In my person book, serious cheating is acceptable grounds for murder (assuming you didn't cheat first, in which case you have waived your rights to vengeance).

I've had this opinion since before I ever had a relationship of my own or was even old enough to want to have one. My parents are divorced though so that may have something to do with it. ;)
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From:[info]mightydoll
Date:October 24th, 2007 05:56 pm (UTC)
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opinions held that long and that strongly often don't bear strong reassessment.

I would, personally, mistrust any opinion I held that I found I'd held since childhood, since I was a much more naive person when I was a child.
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From:[info]talon_79
Date:October 17th, 2007 01:21 am (UTC)

totally off topic, but i thought you'd like this...

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i know you're learning css. thought this little script might help you with multi-columns... :o)

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From:(Anonymous)
Date:October 17th, 2007 07:18 am (UTC)

stunned

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I was going to leave yet another scathing diatribe here,
but I just can't. You demonstrated a fair level of insight here.
Goddamn, that was actually pretty mind-blowing there...
especially the line
"sometimes she’s even screwing your worst enemy ....
she wonders, deep down, whether there’s something
of interest to be found in that loathing."
Seriously, well done.
And that's probably the last positive thing I'll have to say to you in awhile.
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From:[info]jenwryn
Date:October 17th, 2007 09:08 am (UTC)
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*grins*

You don't know me from adam - ain't the net great? - I ended up here through some quiz on a friend's page - but I just had to say, this entry is brilliant!
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From:[info]street_person
Date:October 22nd, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
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You mentioned you'd be writing a second part to this post, which I was looking forward to. Is it on some friends filter that I'm not on?
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From:[info]botia
Date:October 24th, 2007 08:16 pm (UTC)
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I was a 4. My ex thought sex and kissing were gross, so I didn't get either. I was convinced that I was disgusting, but attention from other people seemed to indicate otherwise.

In the end, the relationship was not worth fixing--he was a pretty unpleasant person (A quote from him, after my grandfather had died sooner than expected; they gave him 6 months, 2 weeks later, he died--"Old people die, that's how it is, get over it." He also had a tendency to scream and throw things, like computer chairs, over minor annoyances and Everquest problems.).

We'd had major conflict the whole time we'd been together; I'm not even sure why the hell we stayed together long enough to get married, except that I'm stubborn, and he was very emotionally dependent on me. I was a huge mess, had no financial stability, and was 1000 miles from my family. I started sleeping in another bedroom and spending more time out of the house with friends.

One night, I met someone who was, well, pretty much like an angel to me. He and I have been together for nearly 4 years now, with almost no conflict whatsoever, and a great sex life in addition to our incredible, beautiful mutual adoration. I can't imagine myself wanting to be in anyone else's bed for the rest of my life. We got married in May this year, and I am keeping him, whether he likes it or not.

Maybe I should have broken things off and moved out before even being open to the possibility of being with someone else, but I would have missed out on being with the most perfect partner if I'd done that. I also needed him to teach me independence, because I'd never learned much of that, between my control freak father and my ex who was a lot like him. He saved me from that situation, and I am not sorry for the circumstances that brought us together.

The ex appears to be doing okay; treating his new girlfriend decently, since he learned his lesson the hard way, and I hope that she's happy. I don't want to think about her having to suffer the way I did.
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