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December 27th, 2006
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Talks With My Daughter
AMY: I don't like horror movies. But I liked Dawn of the Dead because it was so surprising.

ME: How was it surprising?

AMY: Everyone died in the end.

ME: That's not surprising. That's what's supposed to happen in a zombie film. If they live, it's surprising.

AMY: Well, it's surprising to me!

ME: I get that. But that's like me saying, "I watched this romantic comedy, and in the end, the two lovers got together! Who the hell knew that was supposed to happen?"

AMY: I guess.

ME: You know what would be surprising, though? A romantic comedy, and in the end the man and the woman get together and then get eaten by zombies.

AMY: But only if they never even mentioned zombies before that. Just zombies out of nowhere, eating romantic brains! Fade to black!

ME: I think that's the only romantic comedy I could ever enjoy.

(Tell me I'm full of it)

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From:[info]bart_calendar
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:17 pm (UTC)
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Dawn of the Dead (the original one anyway) is a surprising film and very different from most horror movies. I could easily see someone who doesn't like horror movies liking Dawn of the Dead becuase of the humor, social commentary and odd structure.
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From:[info]allah_sulu
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:24 pm (UTC)
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You know what would be surprising, though? A romantic comedy, and in the end the man and the woman get together and then get eaten by zombies.

That'll be the director's cut or remake of "Shaun of the Dead"...
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From:[info]miintikwa
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:28 pm (UTC)
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This has nothing to do with anything in this post, I'm just being irreverent and thought I'd share: Thoughts on 42.
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From:[info]wurmwyd
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:30 pm (UTC)
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Hi there!

Although to be fair, in most horror movies the charismatic hero or unimpeachable virgin winds up being the sole survivor. I think it's still fairly unusual for EVERYONE to die, even in a zombie movie.

That being said, I'd be curious to hear your daughter's reaction to The Devil's Rejects. Aside from deep psychological scarring, of course.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:23 am (UTC)
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I'm just happy when the black guy isn't the first to die.
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From:[info]ersatzinsomnia
Date:December 28th, 2006 04:59 am (UTC)
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Watch anything with L.L.Cool J. His contract specifies that he can never die in a horror flick.
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From:[info]gkingsley
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:30 pm (UTC)
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I just had this image of the merging of Love, Actually and 28 Days Later.

It could totally work.
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From:[info]sacramentalist
Date:December 27th, 2006 05:18 pm (UTC)
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I can see that. A Rage-infected person nibbles into the airport and they all get infected.
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From:[info]masque12
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:31 pm (UTC)
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What is she on about? Not everyone dies in Dawn of the Dead. Pete and Francine live.
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From:[info]blazingmoogle
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:46 pm (UTC)
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Remake.
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From:[info]masque12
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:48 pm (UTC)
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Ahh. I always refer to that as Dawn '04. Doesn't compare to the original.
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From:[info]blazingmoogle
Date:December 27th, 2006 06:42 pm (UTC)
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No, but it's still a damned fun movie.
C'mon, admit it. It was fun.
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From:[info]masque12
Date:December 27th, 2006 06:57 pm (UTC)
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It's not that, it's just that when someone says Dawn of the Dead without specifying the year, I assume they're referring to the original. Dawn '04 and 28 Days Later are both decent flicks, but neither of them compare to Romero.
I'm kind of a zombie purist, I want the zombies slow and shambling, and the film with a bit of social commentary to it. The original Dawn set that standard. Dawn '04 was a fun popcorn flick, but that was it.
If a remake doesn't try to be better than or add something to the original, I don't see the point. Evil Dead II. That's how you do a remake. Texas Chainsaw Massacre '03, Dawn '04, The Fog '05, those are all just sad, inferior copies. Make it better, or don't make it at all, is my view.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:24 am (UTC)
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28 Days Later screwed up. You're supposed to be infected with a flesh-tearing bite, not piddly drops of blood.
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From:[info]masque12
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:39 am (UTC)
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It's been a while since I watched 28 Days Later, but if the drops of blood enter an exposed cut or the person's mouth, I have no problem with it. If I recall correctly, even World War Z has things like bullets passing through zombies and into humans causing infection, and WWZ is, to me, the greatest zombie story ever, even including Romero's work. Blood drops on whole flesh, not a problem. If the infected blood enters the human's bloodstream, I have no problem with it.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:December 28th, 2006 12:12 pm (UTC)
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Oh sure, those are good points scientifically. But if you make it so the zombie 'virus' is spread through salivia/bites, it's a much more cooler story artistically. Also, you get to see cool zombie bites.
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From:[info]masque12
Date:December 28th, 2006 12:16 pm (UTC)
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The reason that it spreads through saliva is that the saliva has miniscule amounts of blood in it. Don't get me wrong, I like zombie bites too, but I also like the danger and drama potential of any zombie body fluids being a carrier. When done right, it can raise the pathos of the scene. Goofy zombie movies are good, but I also like "survival horror" done well.
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From:[info]ahsirakh
Date:December 27th, 2006 04:56 pm (UTC)
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"ME: I think that's the only romantic comedy I could ever enjoy."

Have you watched Annie Hall? It beat Star Wars for Best Picture in 1977, and Diane Keaton's character is as easy to fall for as Clementine Kruczynski from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I think those are the two greatest movies about love ever written.
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From:[info]katal
Date:December 27th, 2006 06:58 pm (UTC)
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I was going to reply with practically the exact same post.

Annie Hall, as well as some older films like Philadelphia Story, are romantic comedies the way romantic comedies were meant to be made.
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From:[info]xiphias
Date:December 27th, 2006 07:47 pm (UTC)
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I liked Philadelphia Story up until the last ninety seconds or so.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:December 28th, 2006 12:13 pm (UTC)
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I remember enjoying the hell out of one goofy romantic comedy starring that guy who played Wolverine (not the time travel one). Of course, I had just quit my crazy, boss-is-mentally-ill job two seconds ago so maybe I'm biased.
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From:[info]sacramentalist
Date:December 27th, 2006 05:22 pm (UTC)
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They should make more Zomcoms
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From:[info]ronin_kakuhito
Date:December 27th, 2006 05:25 pm (UTC)
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Oh god. "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies"
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From:[info]andrewducker
Date:December 27th, 2006 05:32 pm (UTC)
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But I think that's why people first get grabbed by zombie movies - they're about the only genre of movie where it's not guaranteed that you'll get a happy ending of some kind. And the first few times you encounter it it's a real shock.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:December 28th, 2006 01:25 am (UTC)
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Plus, it's one of the rare movies where running the fuck away is the goal. I like that. Pure and simple.
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From:[info]kneefers
Date:December 27th, 2006 05:59 pm (UTC)
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Hah... this post made me think of this:
http://www.lorebrandcomics.com/dvdplayer.html
Hehe...
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From:[info]tsgeisel
Date:December 27th, 2006 07:45 pm (UTC)
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Unfortunately, it happens off-screen, but The Coca-Cola Kid has a totally surprise ending. And naked Greta Scacchi, which, fortunately happens on-screen. It's also a romantic comedy, but much more comedy than romantic.
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From:[info]venus_orbiting
Date:December 27th, 2006 08:27 pm (UTC)
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I hate both romantic comedies and horror movies, so there's no way for me to win here.
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From:[info]funwithrage
Date:December 27th, 2006 09:45 pm (UTC)
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I would pay good money to see any given Julia Roberts/Meg Ryan character eaten alive by zombies.

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From:[info]avatar
Date:December 27th, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC)
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Eating romantic brains.

Gotta love it.
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From:[info]paradisacorbasi
Date:December 27th, 2006 11:40 pm (UTC)
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Heh. This reminds me of the zombie fic someone I knew wrote, about a zombie offering his beloved a sparkly diamond ring -- on the finger. Then they shared the tidbit when she said yes.

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From:[info]crimson_planet
Date:December 28th, 2006 12:58 am (UTC)

Zombie Love

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There's the music video for a Phantom Planet song.

Spike Jonze directed the video. It's actually pretty cool (and has a tender ending.

http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1430558

R
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From:[info]treelife
Date:December 28th, 2006 04:26 am (UTC)

Re: Zombie Love

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awww...that is cute.
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From:[info]mojo_iv
Date:December 28th, 2006 08:11 am (UTC)
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She was referring to that lousy remake, right?

--m4
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From:[info]tempter
Date:December 28th, 2006 08:32 am (UTC)
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For some reason, I thought you liked romantic comedies. Didn't you just go see The Holiday a weekend or two ago?
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From:[info]koikuri
Date:January 3rd, 2007 07:55 am (UTC)

i'm forced to recommend...

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Zombie Honeymoon
it's not even a great movie, but it is exactly a somewhat comedic romance that rather tragically involves zombies. you might hate it... but then, you might love it.
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