The Watchtower of Destruction: The Ferrett's Journal - The Fallacy Of Infinite Power
October 5th, 2006
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The Fallacy Of Infinite Power

One of the problems both with conservative and liberal thinking is that they envision America’s strengths as infinite reserves. Unfortunately and sadly, neither are true.

Take the conservatives, for example: They’re big on the military. “We can whip anyone, anywhere!” they cry. “It’s just a matter of time and willpower!” If we lost somewhere, it’s because we lost heart. And we can invade anyone we darned well feel like if they get uppity.

Unfortunately, the idea that our military is all-powerful just isn’t true… And our enemies know it. One of the reasons I was opposed to the invasion of Iraq was because I didn’t like the idea of fighting two wars at the same time (anybody remember Afghanistan?), and I was afraid that locking our military forces down would paralyze us if someone else needed to be taken care of.

Unfortunately, Iran is smart enough to know that we’re stuck in Iraq for the time being — which is why they’re so blatant about going nuclear these days. By committing to Iraq, we’ve sapped the necessary strength to deal with other threats (and those who argue that invading Iraq was a good thing to save lives rarely discuss how the Iraqi commitment has probably cost us the ability to intervene in Darfur, where there are a lot more lives being lost than Saddam ever killed).

Bush projects an image that we are the world’s policemen. And that’s fine, except “policemen” has the reassuring sound of a large maintained force that can arrest several hundred men at a shot. Unfortunately, we’re more like the world’s security guard, on patrol in a gigantic department store; while we’re busy handcuffing one perp in the lingerie department, there are several other departments that are going to go untended.

In a situation like that, there is going to be crime. And when we take an hour to do the paperwork on some scuzzball, the other criminals will know it and take action. It could be that by stopping one reasonably bad crime, even worse crimes occur while we’re busy elsewhere. The question then becomes, What crimes are worth going after?

Alas, the conservative line of thought rarely allows for questioning as to whether Iraq was the right target at the right time. We have a big military force, and the only reason we’re not doing better in Iraq right now is because America doesn’t support the troops enough (and not that armies throughout history have had a series of resounding defeats when facing dedicated, native populations who engage in guerilla warfare), and that’s that.

I should add that there’s no question that we could annihilate the Iraqi people. We have atomic bombs, for God’s sake. But annihilating a nation is a very different thing from defeating a nation, where you theoretically leave enough native folks left over to run the place once you leave.

Our military is a tool. It’s a gigantic tool, the biggest and most effective tool in history. What we have is stunningly potent. But even John Holmes couldn’t fuck everyone at once.

That is the conservative fallacy — we can fight anyone, anywhere, anytime. The liberal fallacy is that we can feed anyone, anywhere, anytime. If anyone is starving, the line of thought goes, it’s because we’re too fat and secure in what we do. We could feed the world, except that we’re greedy bastards who lack the will.

We are greedy bastards, of course. But that’s not why people are starving.

If it was just a question of growing food, you’d probably have a pretty good argument going. It wouldn’t take a whole lot of effort to ship cans of stuff over to the nation of your choice. But it’s not just a question of giving free stuff to people.

The problem is the governments.

It’s a not-nice thing to say, but a lot of the reasons why innocent civilians are starving is because they live under the rule of incompetent and/or power-crazy governments who steal everything they can lay their hands on, ruin the economy with stupid and corrupt moves, and quash the spreading of actual news and facts.

We’ve spent hundreds of billions of dollars over the years to try to fix poverty and starvation, and the problem is not much better than it was when we began because these governments suck.

The question then arises of “How do you fix a broken government?” We’ve tried sanctions; doesn’t work. The sanctions never actually hurt the men at top who you want to drive out, because they take all the best stuff that manages to make it in, and it actually helps keep them in power because they can then spread propaganda to the people saying, “Your lives are bad because America is starving you.” (And remember, these guys don’t have Internet access to see what’s really happening.)

We’ve tried handouts; they don’t work well, either, because again, the guys at the top skim off a horrendous amount of it. And the charitable organizations aren’t universally efficient at converting dollars to actual aid.

The remaining option? Invasion. Topple the existing government. And not only is that not an option thanks to the absence of infinite military power, it’d almost certainly go over like a lead balloon given the traditional liberal abhorrence of using the army unless Hitler’s knocking on your door.

And even if we did give free food to the world, that would be another problem. The conservatives believe in infinite military power, but the liberals believe in infinite economic power. If we found a way to ship food straight to everyone who needed it, you know what would happen?

They’d live.

That sounds great, and it would be great, except that once they lived they’d begin to multiply. The free food and shelter and goods that we gave them would make them safe, and suddenly they would have big happy families… Which we would also have to support. Eventually, the population would grow to the point where we’d be spending so much of our money helping other people, who wouldn’t actually be contributing to our economy, that we’d begin to suffer. Eventually, we would stretch too much and collapse under the burden of trying to help everyone.

I’m not saying that we couldn’t stand to help more, of course — the current conservative philosophy of near-unalloyed Darwinism is a little too harsh (even as, ironically we’re probably doing more to help people overseas than we are to help the poor here at home). We could be doing a lot more than we are right now, and frankly I’d like to see us at least get to the point where we’re sagging at the edges trying to help people. But just like we can’t invade everyone, we can’t save everyone; the economy isn’t some miracle engine that provides infinite dollars for everyone who needs it.

Christ said that the poor will always be with us, and as usual He had a point.

No matter how powerful America gets, there will always be asses that need to be kicked and mouths that need to be fed. That’s the shame of living in a world with limited resources. But it’s the truth.

(Tell me I'm full of it)

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From:[info]pjammer
Date:October 5th, 2006 01:59 pm (UTC)
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Regarding the Infinite Economic Power - this is why I am a big fan of the Grameen Foundation, which uses pratical, *sustainable* strategies to shepherd starving third-world nations to self-sufficiency.
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From:[info]zenithgryph
Date:October 5th, 2006 02:18 pm (UTC)
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I don't know if many of the things located here are better alternatives. Although they all sound like good ideas, there are reasons why areas such as India and Africa have these problems. The land in said areas is very inhospitable, arid and unable to support a lot of life. For the villagers who live in said areas to cultivate a large enough piece of land to feed not only themselves, but their children and now to sell at market, it requires many hands. Being poor in the first place, they're unable to hire anyone to help, so the easiest way to get new hands to help is to make them: children. Of course, this upsets the whole cycle, but it's not a matter of, "stop having children" or "plant more" or "sell some of the crop"; the matter is they have to make the children to work the larger fields to sustain themselves to plant more to hopefully maybe sell.

Also, I can't say I'm entirely supportive of the idea of "don't give dowries." Although I'm not entirely educated on what purpose dowries are supposed to serve or why the author there thinks they are so wrong, but it's sort of tied to a conversation we had in our political science class. After watching a film on rural India which highlighted the lack of Western-idealized choices the women have, one feminist student spoke up and wondered why the women didn't have a choice to not get married. Being in America, we all think this is a basic choice we can or cannot make, not having the choice is almost abhorrent for us that we don't look at WHY. One, it's been that way for thousands of years and their entire culture is built around a woman and man marrying. But more importantly, if a woman is not married, she has little else to do. She has no status in that culture if she is not married. Being without status is entirely crippling and you're without many priveleges that even (what we view as "enslaved") women have.

I didn't mean to verge into something so off-topic, but I think it helps support my idea that, although we may view something as "wrong", like a dowry, we are being a little close-minded to just assume the Western or American way of operating is so much better. While I would never like to be in a position as the Indian women I mentioned above, trying to force our culture and its ideals isn't correct either. Just because their way of life isn't like our and may seem "wrong" to many of our viewpoints, that doesn't necessarily make it wrong. I don't go to Japan and insist they all use forks over chopsticks because it's what I'm used to and maybe it's more efficient at picking up food. It's what they do there, and they both make their culture diverse and what makes it go 'round.

(Please don't try to take such horrible practises such as female circumcision or exposure to infants in my above arguement, I'm not trying to support those practises, just the ones which are relatively harmless and don't result in any immediate loss of life or deformation.)
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From:[info]zenithgryph
Date:October 5th, 2006 02:01 pm (UTC)
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FIRST! :D

And I caught something for ya: "One of the reasons I was supposed to the invasion of Iraq..." Don't you mean opposed?

I have nothing more constructive to add.
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From:[info]zenithgryph
Date:October 5th, 2006 02:02 pm (UTC)
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EDIT: Damnit, ok. SECOND!
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 5th, 2006 02:07 pm (UTC)
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No, I was supposed to invade Iraq. Me personally!

No wonder it's not going well.
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From:[info]mojo_iv
Date:October 5th, 2006 02:09 pm (UTC)
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I'm not saying that the pipe dreams of either side have merit, however, you did forget one important piece of liberalism -- on top of feeding and clothing the world's poor and disheveled, we want to put all their women on birth control.

--m4
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From:[info]lots42
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:15 pm (UTC)
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Just a thought: There are many, many cultures out there, including America's, that could benefit from the example of childfree. That is, adult folks who choose not to breed. I remember how damn relieved I was when I discovered hordes of people who thought not having kids was a neat idea. I thought I was the only one!
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From:[info]bookkeeper
Date:October 5th, 2006 02:24 pm (UTC)
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One of the great betrayals of Conservative principles brought about by the neoconservative movement has been our adventures in nation-building. When we believed Qaddafi was responsible for supporting attacks on Americans, we attacked him. We did try to kill him, but we did not try to redraw the North African map. The threat of force works much better against nations that have something to lose. We fall down against the muslims the madrassas are churning out who feel they have nothing to lose and an eternity to gain.

Overall, an excellent essay, but I will consistently resist Bush's expansionist policies being pulled under the conservative umbrella. Neoconservatism was born from philosophies that started in the Democratic party, split from them during the Vietnam war and have settled in amongst those of us who believes our government should spend more time doing less.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:17 pm (UTC)
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Wasn't it Qaddafi who rolled over and coperated after we blew up a lot of Iraq?

I know, I know, correlation does not imply causation but it is interesting to think about.
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From:[info]crasch
Date:October 5th, 2006 02:44 pm (UTC)
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The remaining option? Invasion.

We could also stop acting as de facto border guards for such governments, and drop movement restrictions into our countries. Then their citizens could flee and find better jobs and lives elsewhere.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:20 pm (UTC)
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We need some movement restrictions into the US of A. Mexico -is- a pipe dream for people who want to blow up parts of the US but aren't confident of making it thru a plane flight un-arrested.

Plus, drug smugglers and immigrants etc.
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 5th, 2006 04:34 pm (UTC)
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A valid point. I've said before that we need to overhaul the whole immigration system.

Won't happen, though.
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From:[info]lots42
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:08 pm (UTC)
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While I agree with your major points, I'm reminded of screamy outrages concerning past literal food drop offs.

First, America was scum for dropping the food -on- someone. Then we were scum for not coloring the package the right colors, whatever they were supposed to be. And IIRC, we were also scum for dropping them in a minefield.

Just a darkly amusing anectode.
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From:[info]pope_guilty
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:50 pm (UTC)
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In Afghanistan, we dropped food packages- occasionally in minefields- that were almost indistinguishable from unexploded cluster bomblets.
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:October 5th, 2006 04:33 pm (UTC)
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There's not a whole lot of gratitude involve in giving stuff to people for free. It's a part of human nature that anything free isn't perceived as being worth much, even if it's worth a lot.
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From:[info]perich
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:15 pm (UTC)

good times, good times

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Man ... remember when Clinton sent U.S. troops to Haiti and conservatives shrieked that "we are not the world's policeman"?
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From:[info]lots42
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:17 pm (UTC)

Re: good times, good times

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Both political sides need to learn the opposing side is capable of doing something they agree with.
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From:[info]m31andy
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:35 pm (UTC)
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You've just compared Iraq to the lingerie department. That's very amusing! (And not so unapt: hot, uncomfortable to live in and scratchy round the edges!)

So, where is this going to end? Italy for "Ladies Clothing", US for "Food Hall", Britain for "Loading Dock", perhaps?!
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From:[info]vicious_bomber
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:40 pm (UTC)
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I agree with you up to a point, but I think the real problem is that the US has lost the will to wage a real war. By this I mean seeking out and killing the enemy no matter whaere he is or what the political result will be.

Every war from Vietnam on has been run under the eye of the media and the US government has acted in manner to wage a war while not offending people. The reality is the enemy uses this "compasion" against us, or we use it to defeat ourselves.

In Iraq we should be bombing mosques that hold enemy forces and arresting Preist that are fostering disent. Is it niice? No, it winning a war.

In my opinion if you commit to a war you better be damn sure you will finish it. And that means defeating your enemy and winning.

I hate to point back to WW2 but it is the last time the US was commited to WINNING and nothing else. The Allies MELTED Dresden. Melted the city, and dropped a nuke on Hiroshima and Nagissaki, to WIN. You have to win the war no matter what otherwise why did you go to fight in the first place?

BTW winning a war means that your enemy niether has the will or thepower to fight you anymore. Because if you do not break thier will and power they will come back to fight you again.
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From:[info]pope_guilty
Date:October 5th, 2006 03:51 pm (UTC)
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Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki would be war crimes under the Geneva Conventions (which were, fortunately enough, passed after WWII).
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From:[info]dekarch
Date:October 5th, 2006 04:07 pm (UTC)
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"and not that armies throughout history have had a series of resounding defeats when facing dedicated, native populations who engage in guerilla warfare"

Simply not true.

Insurrections and insurgencies have a stunning failure rate. I direct you to every single Indian campaign the US fought, the defeat of the South during the Civil War (an insurrection which used irregular "guerilla" forces as an adjunct to conventional armies), the defeat of the Phillipine Insurrection and the subsequent campaign against the Moros, the US Marine Corps in Nicaragua in the 1920s, and the US performance during the Korean War against irregular Communist forces who fought in support of the NKPA. I point you to the Malaysian campaign the British fought, the British war in Aden, the Greek Civil War, the successful defeat of the FMLN by the Salvadoran government, etc, etc, etc. SDS, the Weatherman, and the Black Panthers could be considered abortive wanna-be insurgencies which were wiped out by their own clumsiness and law enforcment efforts before they got that far.

Off the top of my head and restricting to US history and a couple well-known counter-insurgency campaigns of the 20th century.

The myth of the invincible guerilla is a product of the 1960s left's infatuation with Maoist guerilla theories--and all other things spewing from Communist China.
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From:[info]kmg_365
Date:October 5th, 2006 04:24 pm (UTC)
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I thought Ferrett was drawing a comparison to the guerilla war waged by the 13 colonies during their fight for independence from England, and not making a blanket statement that all insurgencies would be successful.
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From:[info]dolmena
Date:October 5th, 2006 05:34 pm (UTC)
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Ever since I was a young child trying to understand politics and economics, I've had this recurring thought: "Why does our government give all this food and stuff to people we don't even get along with? Why don't we just not give anyone anything, unless maybe if they're really nice, and then not attack them either unless we have to to protect ourselves?"

But for over 30 years, I've been told it's not that simple. So apparently it isn't.
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From:[info]kittiethedragon
Date:October 5th, 2006 05:43 pm (UTC)
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It is, in fact, that simple. But old men with large wallets have other ideas about what's good for them, regardless as to whether or not it is right or sensible. I'm all for self-interest, but damn.
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From:[info]kittiethedragon
Date:October 5th, 2006 05:42 pm (UTC)
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Well, if other very powerful countries would help out rather than being run by fat, boring, old white men, maybe the US would be running so much amock. Or maybe if more people stood up and said "Wait a minute!" or maybe if a former president hadn't cut our military by leagues and removed our capacity to wage war on three theaters at once... maybe maybe maybe. I say we're lucky to even exist, at this rate. Here's to another two hundred...
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From:[info]culculhen
Date:October 5th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
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even as, ironically we’re probably doing more to help people overseas than we are to help the poor here at home

Don't worry, you're not doing that.

Even if you take all the military spending for Iraq into account, the number is still far lower then the social programs spend.

And if you don't think of bullets of some sort development aid, the percentage of the budget that the USA spend on foreign help is a nice even 0.17% The lowest off all developed nations. No matter how little you think gets spend on the poor in the USA you can rest easy that it does top what the USA spends on the poor in foreign nations.

Rest assured, there'll never be that irony with the USA foreign aid spending.
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From:[info]sylphslider
Date:October 5th, 2006 09:27 pm (UTC)
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good arguments.

We do produce enough food to feed the world a couple times over every year. But it usually ends up being diverted from the very poor.
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From:[info]cynicalcleric
Date:October 5th, 2006 09:50 pm (UTC)

Darfur

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Where is Darfur and what makes you think the govt would bother intervening if they weren't busy in Iraq & Afghanistan?

(And note I say "would bother intervening", which is not the same as "should intervene")
From:[info]tsukemono5
Date:October 5th, 2006 10:06 pm (UTC)

Re: Darfur

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Western Sudan, and there's an ongoing genocide that's taken about 400K lives.
United States has had a public outcry about this that has exceeded any foreign conflict in my recent memory.
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From:[info]aaronfreed
Date:October 6th, 2006 12:43 am (UTC)
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Couple things I'd like to point out:

#1 – Quite often, the U.S. is actively supporting the aforementioned corrupt governments. Witness the overthrow of Allende for Pinochet, or the Iranian government the U.S. supported until the Iranian Revolution, or a dozen other instances I could name. If it's not the American government itself playing puppet master, odds are that American corporations are paying off the foreign governments to do things that massively harm their people. We could do quite a lot to end poverty simply by punishing corporations that "do business" in such a manner. But, of course, we don't.

#2 – As countries become more industrialized and people become more educated, the birth rate slows down massively. This is a demographic fact. Solving poverty and ignorance will, in turn, solve the problem of overpopulation, or at least slow the birth rate to such a low level that it is statistically insignificant.
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