To call it rape, in my mind, minimises the sufferings of countless women who have actually been forced into sexual submission.

I'm kind of speechless at this.

If you think that a man who is pestering a woman who isn't interested to have sex with him, and who eventually succeeds because he wears her down so that it's less trouble to let him use her for sex than it is to have to keep fighting him off, isn't forcing her into sexual submission, you have a seriously cracked view of rape.

Or rather, you seem to have the classic "if she's a loose woman, it isn't rape" attitude. A woman who was forced by a man using pester power can't really be suffering, you think? You're just flat wrong. (Check out a discussion on my own journal for an example.)

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You disagree, then, that it's about the presence or absence of alternatives?

Because that's what I was saying.

And please don't put words in my mouth. I understand that other people may have brought loose-woman allegations into it, but I most certainly did not.

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You disagree, then, that it's about the presence or absence of alternatives?

Because that's what I was saying.

And please don't put words in my mouth. I understand that other people may have brought loose-woman allegations into it, but I most certainly did not.

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Oh, for heaven's sake. Read what I wrote and respond to it, or don't.

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