There are really women in the world who will say yes after they've said no fifteen times? This seems like an enormous waste of time and energy to me. If I like someone and they hit on me I'll respond positively. If I don't like them, I usually politely turn them down. If they continue asking, I subtly hint to them that they should stop, then I get passive-aggressive, then I get openly hostile, THEN I tell them in plain English to get the hell away from me and never speak to me again. I can only go on being nice for so long.

On the other hand, I have a massive inferiority complex that says that any man I'd want to be with wouldn't want to go to any great lengths to be with me so I shouldn't force them to do so, so I suppose I play an entirely different sort of game there.

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I know someone who uses it as a screening mechanism, if you can believe that. She feels that if someone isn't persistent enough to ask her out repeatedly, they're not "worthy" of her. To which I say, wtf?

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I know a girl like that, I flirted with her when I saw her and she would always say no if I asked her out - it became a joke eventually - but when I got bored, she started hitting on me instead.

After I'd found someone else.

Women are weird.

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On some level she was probably flattered by your attention and the fact that you finally gave up translated in some weird way to deflating her ego.

I'll admit to having done that to at least one person before I realized how incredibly mean and selfish it was.

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To make the story even more amusing: she's now my best mates girlfriend, so as a result she has met my current girlfriend, Ruth. Me and Ruth agreed to split up in a year when she leaves uni, and since then Ruth has told me she'd put money on me and the girl ending up together.

Women are weird.

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Yeah, but once you're available to this girl again she might stop being interested.

Women ARE weird. I speak as one of them.

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Which is exactly why I shall be remaining single for at least 3 months after :)

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But are they as weird as men?

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Everyone is equally weird. It's the ways in which the weirdness manifests itself that constitute the difference!

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And that is half the fun! :)

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Men are weird too.

Why did every guy who had a crush on me wait until after I was engaged to tell me about it?

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Women are weird.

Really?

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[sarcasm]No, I was joking.[/sarcasm]

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In what way are women, generally, weird?

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In the same way that men are weird as far as women are concerned.

If I understood how their were weird, they wouldn't be as weird!

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In the same way that men are weird as far as women are concerned.
If I understood how their were weird, they wouldn't be as weird!

"Eww, girls are icky" turns into "wow, women are weird", but no matter which way you say it, it belongs in the 3rd grade. It's infantile.

I mean, said ironically, in jest, I can see it maybe. 's why I asked if you were serious, and you seem to be saying you are.

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I would disagree that "Eww, girls are icky" and "wow, women are weird" are even remotely connected, but that's not your point so let's leave that to one side. I must also slap myself for repeated grammar errors in my last post, but that's between me and my fingers that type all by themselves.

I would say I'm 30% serious and 70% joking - and the serious part of it comes from the fact that half the things that have been discussed on this post are due to the fact that women and men see things differently, ie women see things in a different light to men and I don't understand how they could think like that. I've had numerous conversations with women about the fact that they think blokes are weird. Maybe it's a British thing, I dunno.

Besides, the weirdness is half the fun - I don't want a girl who thinks like me.

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As a guy who attracts a lot of unwanted attention from older men, I have learned to skip the subtle step as it is totally ineffective. If someone is hitting on me and I am not interested, I usually go through four stages:

• if it was not really overt, ignore/pretend not to notice the advance
  
• say something along the lines of "sorry, not interested"
  
• harshly remind them that I am not interested, and to kindly fuck off
  
• "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."
  

Ok, so maybe I have never had to use that last stage...

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No, but it's an important last stage. Some people who won't take no for an answer really won't take no for an answer.

I usually substitute a deflective joke at stage two, but then I have a lot of practice.

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