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February 3rd, 2005
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Freddy vs. Jason
Totally cheesy horror film.  The usual overload of gore and blood, which I actually find a distraction; too much of the fake, R-rated injuries of blood and ragged stuff seeping through cloth (because you can't show real flesh-based wounds in long close-ups, no no) make me start thinking about makeup techniques. 

But I still give total credit to the movie because there was a winner.  Given the celebrity nature of the two combatants, I was expecting a push - but no, there was a clear victor (even as there was the obligatory wink to indicate that Round 2 would be coming up). 

Now if we can just start production on Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash.  Oh, man, I'm still droolin' at the thought. 

(43 shouts of denial | Tell me I'm full of it)

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From:gholam
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:19 pm (UTC)
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In the game Jagged Alliance 2, when you created your character, part of the process was filling out a questionaire. One of the question was "You'd pay good money to see the fight of..." and a list of 8 possible pairs of contestants. I always picked "The NRA vs. The Congress". :)
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From:khamura
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:44 pm (UTC)
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Bill Gates vs Robocop was a good one too, though I always went with Jackie Chan vs Jean-Claude van Damme, because I hate the latter and would glady see his ass whipped in a bout of furniture fighting.
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From:madshrubbery
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:19 pm (UTC)
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I was expecting the same kind of tie with Alien vs. Predator, but was equally impressed they chose a winner.
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From:theferrett
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:56 pm (UTC)
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Who won?

Please don't say "Humans."
From:genuinechris
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:06 pm (UTC)
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who won freddy vs. jason?
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From:theferrett
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:11 pm (UTC)
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Jason kicked Freddy's ass to the curb.
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From:poobah103
Date:February 3rd, 2005 08:20 pm (UTC)
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As well he should have.
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From:ersatzinsomnia
Date:February 4th, 2005 12:24 pm (UTC)
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Amen, brother. Three reasons.

1) Ol' school. Jason predates Freddy by years.
2) Jason may be a serial killer, but Freddy's an asshole. Assholes never survive horror movies.
3) You really can't have a child molester as the "winner" of any film. Especially a horror flim. No matter how snazzy his patter.

www.livejournal.com/users/ersatzinsomnia/9655.html

Oh, and *spoiler* in AvP it appears that the Predator wins, having killed the queen alien, but at the very end we find out that the predator, who dies during the conflict, had a chest-burster that's now free on the alien ship.
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From:madshrubbery
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:18 pm (UTC)
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The Predators, with a set up for sequels, of course. The Humans were the real losers.
From:adigitalpimp
Date:February 3rd, 2005 04:54 pm (UTC)
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...Humans. Seriously.

"Whoever wins, we lose." Humans win.

Although its a kind of tie-up, and you could argue it either way, humans were the only ones with a clear cut victory. An ending that still ruins the movie.
From:adigitalpimp
Date:February 3rd, 2005 05:00 pm (UTC)
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Oh...the book/comic book versions were far more satisfying. Same story, except with a better plot that doesn't make you feel cheated. Only reason they changed all the important details (some of which made it good) was so they wouldn't have to pay rights to the writer.

But if you read/see both, there won't really be any doubt in your mind that they ripped it off.
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From:sjwt
Date:February 4th, 2005 06:52 am (UTC)
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dont foreget the tag line..

"no matter who wins, we lose"

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From:nitro_pb
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:21 pm (UTC)
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Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash.

oh hell drool inducing yes!
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From:yendi
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:28 pm (UTC)
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And that winner was also the clear victor in terms of body count. The movie was definitely a more one-sided battle than expected.
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From:sacramentalist
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:31 pm (UTC)
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Ash? Will Pikachu and Bulbasaur be there, too? Haha!

Now you can watch Freddie vs. Jason in 30 Seconds (as enacted by bunnies)
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From:siljannaferret
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:44 pm (UTC)
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OMG that was funny and i didn't even have sound. (i'm till at work) can't wait till i get home.
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From:shawnj
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:31 pm (UTC)
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Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash.

Not gonna happen.

The current rumor is Michael Myers (Halloween) will be added to the mix instead.
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From:spiralpegasus
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:26 pm (UTC)
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Rats.
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From:theferrett
Date:February 3rd, 2005 02:56 pm (UTC)
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Damn.
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From:dragons_f_wolf
Date:February 3rd, 2005 09:38 pm (UTC)
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Good! Ash doesn't belong in a movie with Freddy & Jason. Michael makes much more sense. Well, insofar as any of the franchises make sense. Ash is in a class by himself.
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From:collie222
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:46 pm (UTC)
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Did you see Alien Vs Predator? I am wondering if it is worth the rental fee....
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From:yendi
Date:February 3rd, 2005 04:28 pm (UTC)
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I enjoyed it, but I'm also a Paul W.S. Anderson fan. Don't set your expectations too high, and it's fun.
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From:libco
Date:February 3rd, 2005 10:15 pm (UTC)
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I enjoyed it too. Slow beginning but nicely set up.
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From:siljannaferret
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:51 pm (UTC)
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Well let's see jason is dead and freddy is dead, Ash kicks dead butt all over the place. So after many shots of Ash getting beat up. He would come out the winner. Well, sort of in the "well yeah, I said the words, maybe not every syllable. but I said your stupid words!"
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From:interactiveleaf
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:52 pm (UTC)
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Jason X is a lot of fun too . . .
From:guyver8
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:54 pm (UTC)
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I found the movie delightful, and the cinematography was surprisingly awesome.

I didn't expect much from the movie, so I think I enjoyed it because of that.
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From:mojo_iv
Date:February 3rd, 2005 12:55 pm (UTC)
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Ash vs. Everyone!

--m4
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From:dragons_f_wolf
Date:February 3rd, 2005 09:55 pm (UTC)
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The Outback Slug. They can jump 300 feet straight into the air. But they have never mastered the ability to land. They have no predators, they are just...stupid.
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From:purplkat
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:06 pm (UTC)
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When I was taking makeup classes in college, we had one day that was cheerfully called "Gore day" where the goal was to make ourselves or other people up with nasty open gaping wounds, black eyes, nails half-embedded in the skin, you name it.

So I can tell you that even a reasonably skilled makeup artist can do some mighty convincing open, gaping wounds. However, the materials to do so aren't cheap, and it does take quite a lot of time, which might be why slasher flicks do things the way that they do.

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From:theferrett
Date:February 3rd, 2005 02:56 pm (UTC)
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I thought both of their characterizations were off a little bit, but I was willing to forgive it. (Jason in that he had, y'know, a character.)
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From:scathedobsidian
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:18 pm (UTC)
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My favorite part? When Freddy cut the Destiny's Child girl's nose off. Who comes up with this shit? Classic.
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From:his_angel
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:28 pm (UTC)
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Now if we can just start production on Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash. There's an idea for the next one! Whoever didn't win can come back with Ash to kick butt. Then the two of them can fight it out.

His ~angel~
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From:coyotegoth
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:48 pm (UTC)
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Hey, if the bunnies have covered it, there must be something there.
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From:spiral5
Date:February 3rd, 2005 01:58 pm (UTC)
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Terrible, thoughtless, and absolutely delightful movie. I can't wait for round 2, even though of course the other will win that one to set up a round 3 for a best-two-out-of-three. THEN have the victor move on to tangle with Michael Myers. Best two out of three there, then the loser of the first battle can come back to take on the winner. If done properly, no matter how bad and/or predictable the movies may be, this X vs. Y could be a gold mine for the next 20 years.
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From:theferrett
Date:February 3rd, 2005 02:58 pm (UTC)
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Actually, I'm hoping that the winner in 2 will STILL be Jason, which sets it up for a cool comeback win by Freddy in the third.
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From:spiral5
Date:February 3rd, 2005 04:46 pm (UTC)
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Wouldn't that paint Freddy as an underdog hero, though? They're both supposed to be villains, not the villain versus the little sweatered killing engine that could.
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From:joshism1981
Date:February 3rd, 2005 02:11 pm (UTC)

Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash

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FvJvA would be cool and I might actually find a reason to finally watch a movie with Jason or Freddy.

But if they make FvJvA looking forward to the sequel to that movie: Freddie vs Jason vs Ash vs Aliens vs Predator vs Manos vs Dr. Doom vs Batman vs Superman vs Godzilla vs King Kong vs Mothra vs Walken.

(Fark reference)
From:adigitalpimp
Date:February 3rd, 2005 04:58 pm (UTC)

Re: Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash

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Godzilla destroys everything with death ray/smash 'em up, Superman kills Godzilla, Aliens do a stupid hybrid with Superman, Superman still wins anyway, and Wonder Woman is crying on the side lines because she's the least cool member of JLA. (No offense to Wonder Woman fans.)
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From:bayarts
Date:February 3rd, 2005 04:40 pm (UTC)
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From:adigitalpimp
Date:February 3rd, 2005 04:56 pm (UTC)
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Weren't there two versions of the movie? One released on each coast, each with a different winner....

I'd expect the DVD to have the "alternate" ending.
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From:poobah103
Date:February 3rd, 2005 08:21 pm (UTC)
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I have actually dedicated roughly 35% of my brain to doing nothing but constantly running that movie over and over in my head. It totally rules.
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From:sjwt
Date:February 4th, 2005 06:50 am (UTC)
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"Ash, homewares, I dont sleep!"
From:leanybean98
Date:February 4th, 2005 09:31 am (UTC)

Freddy vs. Jason

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There was no winner. It may have appeared that Jason won but in the very final scene where Jason is carrying Freddy's head, Freddy winks. Poof! credits roll. No true winner, just a set up for a sequel. I would love to see a sequel as well. Not into Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh or wherever he's from so I would not know crap and crap about Ash.
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