The Watchtower of Destruction: The Ferrett's Journal - Somebody For Kerry
September 15th, 2004
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Somebody For Kerry

The problem with most John Kerry supporters is that they're not really for John Kerry - and it shows.  Whenever you ask someone why they're voting for Kerry, instead what you get is a vitriolic listing of all the bad things that Bush has done.  Ask them what Kerry plans to do when he's in office, and you get a blank stare. 

Unfortunately, this doesn't help the undecided electorate.  They are - by definition - undecided, and telling them why the current President's an asshole only serves to make you seem petty and angry.  And unfortunately, when it comes to a lot of voters, a pleasant attitude is more meaningful than a boatload of facts. 

Therefore, I have decided to go for a weekly writing on what I like about Kerry.  He has some good ideas, even if he doesn't always express them as clearly as he could.  If you already know why you're against Bush, the idea is to move you away from Anybody But Bush and into Somebody For Kerry territory. 

A vital note: Conservatives will trot out the usual array of "Kerry will say whatever you want" insults and claim that it doesn't matter what Kerry says.  That's not true for two reasons:

1)  Kerry's voting record has been fairly consistent on the issues he feels strongly about.  His record on women's rights has been so consistent that Bush's team has, paradoxically, criticized him on it (How can someone flip-flop and be the most liberal man in the Senate?), his record on Civil Rights has been top-notch, and he's been mostly consistent on government reform.  He also worked overtime on the MIA issues back when it was a very unpopular choice, and got results.  When he believes in something, he'll work on it. 

(Dismayingly, he's also shown a strong preference for unrestricted free trade in his voting record, thus making him a rather Republican choice.  But that's an issue for a later day.) 

2)  All politicians lie, so to claim that Kerry will say whatever you want to hear is a rather dim thing to say; so will Bush.  Bush wanted to invade Iraq, so he said "Hey, there's a threat there," and then shifted to the "It's good that we brought democracy there" reasoning when the threat didn't pan out, and now that the torture trials are hitting the headlines he is now moving towards not mentioning Iraq at all.  Yet for some reason, that constantly shifting array of "Why Iraq was bad" not considered flip-flopping. 

In other words, Bush lies as well.  He promises a lot of things and doesn't do 'em, either - the difference is that Bush does whatever the hell he wants and then lies about why he's doing it, whereas most politicians will lie about what they're going to do.*

Remember, Bush ran on a platform of international non-interference, but after 9/11 he did a complete about-face.  Who's to say that Kerry - who was not weak on defense beforehand, but merely middling - might not also have changed his mind? 

But that's enough about Bush.  Let's go with what I like about Kerry today, and it's a strange one:

Kerry is strong on homeland security

You see, Bush's take on terror is pretty much "Invade Iraq and make it harder to fly on a plane" and let everything else slide. 

Whereas Kerry realizes that the next attack is not likely to come from the same direction.  It's been shown that a guy with a shoulder-mounted rocket launcher - the kind commonly available in, say, Afghanistan - can take out a commercial jet airliner, no sweat, and the terrorist could probably get away afterwards in the confusion.  In fact, it's been suggested that this is where the next wave of terror attacks might come from.  Yet Bush has done nothing about this. 

It's been shown that our shipping ports are tragically underlooked.  Less than 2% of all packages entering America are even looked at, let alone looked at carefully.  Many terrorist experts believe that it would be horrifically easy to sneak a vast array of bomb parts or chemical weapons parts into America for use on our home soil... And yet Bush has done nothing about this in his three years. 

Likewise, our chemical plants and nuclear facilities are tragically underguarded.  A couple of dedicated, suicidal terrorists with assault weapons could take over a plant and do truly horrific things with it - picture a large, mall-sized cloud of deadly gas wafting over the horizon of a major town - and yet despite cries for better plant security, Bush has done nothing.  In fact, he's cut funding to some of these programs. 

Let's be honest, here: Al-Qaida are smart fucking people.  They've been experts at analyzing our weaknesses and striking where we weren't looking.  The brilliance of 9/11 was that they turned several boxcutters into the worst terrorist attack ever, and they're likely to strike in another comparatively low-budget operation where there's little security to stop them.  Bush's campaign has been centered around the idea that they'll hit us in the same place twice... But Kerry thinks otherwise. 

He's for increased chemical and nuclear plant security.  He's for massively increased port security.  He's for channelling more money to homeland security (and Kerry's voting record is also strong on giving money to cops). 

Will Kerry do it?  Well, obviously, I believe so... But even if you doubt him, he's still far more likely to do it than Bush, who's had three years, done nothing about any of these issues, and has a consistent record of caving to the pressures of Big Business every time. 

Kerry's far more likely to tell the chemical plants, "Yes, it's a lot of money, but American security is paramount.  Suck it up and deal."  Hell, that's what liberals are good for - getting corporations to bend over and take it in the name of the public safety.

That's one reason I'm for Kerry this election.  I might deal with Iraq next week, if I have the time. 

* - And I have more on Bush's supposed "strength," but I'll save that for next time.  Remember, this isn't about Bush, it's about Kerry. 

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From:[info]brujah
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:43 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for posting this. I am tired of hearing the support for Kerry become nothing more than: He's Not Bush.
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From:[info]warmage
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:45 pm (UTC)
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*edit: I saw my first of the "ABB - Anyone But Bush" buttons on the subway today.
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From:[info]hugh_mannity
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:43 pm (UTC)
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It's been shown that our shipping ports are tragically underlooked. Less than 2% of all packages entering America are even looked at, let alone looked at carefully. Many terrorist experts believe that it would be horrifically easy to sneak a vast array of bomb parts or chemical weapons parts into America for use on our home soil...

Why bother to import anything? All the ingredients are easily available here in the US. The trick is getting hold of them.

Tim McVeigh didn't import anything to Oklahoma -- he used standard commercially available fertiliser and diesel for his truck bomb.

It's virtually impossible to stop a dedicated terrorist -- look how long the Unabomber was able to continue to send packages to people. Fortunately he didn't do anything much. They only got him because his family became suspicious and turned him in. Someone working alone, taking his time, being very careful in what he buys, where he buys it, and how much he buys at any one time, can evade pretty much every method of detection in the book.

Then there was the Beltway sniping thing -- Suppose instead of just DC, there'd been 8 or 10 teams, each in a different city, each hitting one or 2 targets a day. Can you imagine the panic if every major metro area had a sniper? We'd be under martial law in a heartbeat.

You don't need high tech, imported chemicals or anything fancy at all. Just some willing bodies, a modicum of intelligence, and basic weapons.
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:49 pm (UTC)
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Very, very true - but it's unlikely that you're going to find willing bodies living on American soil. Al-Qaida terrorists are going to have to import people to get their job done, and those imported people would cause suspicion buying terrorist materials.

If they can find a significant amount of native converts, we're fucked.

Also, a small nitpick: The Unabomber got caught because he started writing letters. If he hadn't gone for the PR, he'd most likely still be out there.
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From:[info]warmage
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
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Good plan. I think a large part of what makes the public so apathetic is that finding reliable, verifiable sources for information that supports a candidate is really hard to do when the muck starts to fly.

Add to that that I'm usually a lazy bastard when it comes to politics (I'm "small-l", if anyone cares) but not when it comes to having an opinion.

I strongly appreciate you writing this stuff up and publishing. I have faith in your zeal and research. I wish I had some ideas on how to syndicate you to people outside my immediate circle. :)
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From:[info]onceupon
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
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I think the smartest thing Kerry did in this election was choose John Edwards -- charisma king -- for his running mate.

Nothing wins favor like the self-made son of mill workers with a million-dollar smile.
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:47 pm (UTC)
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I think the dumbest thing the Democrats did was not to elect Edwards as the candidate. But alas, we work with what we have.
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From:[info]wolflady26
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:56 pm (UTC)
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One thing that I'm really surprised that hasn't been mentioned more about Kerry in the (admittedly limited) election coverage that I've seen is that he was on the senate subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics, and International Crime for 10 years, and was chairman for 8. It's not like he's new to this area of concern - in fact, from reading his book, I'd say he has very broad experience in this area.
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From:[info]warmage
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:58 pm (UTC)
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Did you link that amazon page through Ferett's forwarder? :)
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From:[info]fortunavirilis
Date:September 15th, 2004 01:58 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for doing this! Living in the South (Memphis) I often find myself the only person in a room of my friends who is not shouting 'Anyone but Kerry' while gleefully announcing that they can now buy assault weapons legally thanks to Bush (which is still something new to me since I grew up in the NYC metro area where there was never a shortage of liberals or gun control supporters).

Honestly, Kerry was not my first choice for President. And I would prefer a large number of people to Bush. But that does not mean that I am being indiscriminate when voting for Kerry two months from now. And I resent the implications that I am. I just wish that my friends would realize that there are people out there who are voting for Kerry and are aware of his record and stance on issues.
From:[info]drooling_ferret
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:19 pm (UTC)

As...

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As it's been pretty widely pointed out: most of those people could have already purchased slightly more unweildly and less concealable versions of those same "assault weapons" (a weird term, because pretty much ANY weapon is a an "assault weapon", no?), barring additional restrictions in state and local laws.

It's funny how many things are put in mainstream movies that are really apt or even prescient, but never really get the credit they deserve. You've got a sappy movie like "The American President" that includes a somewhat subtle criticism of the assualt weapons ban, and "The Seige" (which I liked a lot) which ought've luanched a special edition DVD release in the last couple of years...
From:[info]drooling_ferret
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:03 pm (UTC)

I've...

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I've not heard any of that from the Kerry campaign. Then again, I live in New Jersey, so my vote doesn't matter one bit to the Kerry campaign: they assume (probably rightly so, despite any Republican claims to the contrary... then again, for all that some Republicans are claiming that NJ will be close this year, they're not spending a whole lot of campaign dollars here, either) that NJ will go Democrat, and just don't bother. Of course, there is no major broadcast media market in New Jersey: southern NJ is swallowed up by the Phildadelphia broadcasters, and northern NJ is covered by NYC broadcasters (that's a dramatic oversimplification, but it's basically how things work).

As New York City and State both also generally go Democrat in major elections, despite NYC being, what, the #1 media market in the USA, I don't see all that much advertising on the networks there (though some of the nation-wide cable networks just get spammed with the things: the History Channel, for instance, is practically spammed with political advertising this campaign season), and what I do see is pretty uninformative. Pennsylvania is a supposed "swing state", and I still see a distinct lack of informative, or even interesting, advertising on the Philadelphia affiliates (then again, I don't watch all that much network TV during key times of the day, so I might just be out of the loop).

And print media? Not a damn thing in the local papers, really.

I've (semi-seriously) considered voting Bush just to protest the assumption of my vote. Damnit, I want to be catered to, too. ;p
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From:[info]blairwitchgreen
Date:September 15th, 2004 03:49 pm (UTC)

Re: I've...

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I've (semi-seriously) considered voting Bush just to protest the assumption of my vote. Damnit, I want to be catered to, too.

I hope you don't give in to that urge. It would be impossible and futile for Kerry to campaign rigorously in all 50 states; he's got limited time and money to fight against an incredibly well-funded and well-run incumbent political machine. You live in a state that he's counting on for support, and that support allows him to focus money and time on other states whose populations aren't as "enlightened" as your own. You should be proud to live in a state who's citizens give Kerry the base support to take the fight to Bush in the battleground states. When you see those states turning blue on election night, you can take pride you did your part.
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From:[info]pheret1
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:18 pm (UTC)

Good point

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Hm. I'm not a great fan of Kerry. Basically, he was the third to last Democratic primary candidate that I would have supported (with Lieberman last, Gephardt second to last).

I feel like I'm in the "swing vote" category since if I disliked him that much, I'd send a protest vote to Nader or something. I know I have choices (however limited they may be).

Fortunately, there is enough about him (you have pointed out several points above) that even though there are others I would have preferred to vote for, I think I can cast a vote for him in good conscience.

Immediately post-primary I was in the camp that it didn't matter to me whether it was Bush or Kerry, since I saw them as terribly similar. Then, it was pointed out to me the difference in the judicial appointments they would each probably make during the next four years. A very learned, prominent attorney line-itemed out how much the next president will affect the Supreme Court and Federal courts.

Even though I'm in Illinois, which is a very blue state, that woke me up and highlighted to me that they are very much not the same - enough that I'm not wasting my vote on any kind of "protest" thing. I'm SO not in the "anyone but Bush" camp at all - I really feel like I know why I'm voting for Kerry and why it is important to me. But Kerry better watch himself if he does get into office, because some of us are not 100% behind him with blind, unwavering support (as it should be) and could go back to being a swing vote after 4 years.
From:[info]hobomagic
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:38 pm (UTC)

Re: Good point

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Given that one vote never matters you're not exactly wasting it. In fact, voting for someone you think will be awful (and, for the record, i think both bush and kerry will be awful) seems to be one step away from single candidate elections.
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From:[info]haplochant
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:22 pm (UTC)
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Bravo. I have a huge problem with a voting populace who will vote for one man solely to eject another from office. So far none of the liberals I know has been able to explain to me *why* I should vote for Kerry, who has a chance at deseating Bush (as opposed to Third-party candidates who don't stand much of a chance) other than, "Good god, you should do whatever it takes to get Bush out of office!"
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From:[info]selenite
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:25 pm (UTC)
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Thanks--it's nice to hear a rational voice in the debate.

I agree with a lot of the homeland security points. A friend of mine once said "You just like Bush on defense" and I replied "Nah, I'm not thrilled with DHS so far, I just like him on offense."
From:[info]hobomagic
Date:September 15th, 2004 03:41 pm (UTC)
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Sometimes a good offense is the best defense. There is no doubt that al qaeda and Iran are pouring massive amounts of money and effort into Iraq. They'd be spending it elsewhere if they could. Don't get me wrong, the bush administration didnt expect that (no one did) but it is whats happening.
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From:[info]shellefly
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:47 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for posting these pro-Kerry entries. It's a welcome break from the anti-Bush stuff ... sort of like saying the cup is half-full in a political sense.
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From:[info]calamity
Date:September 15th, 2004 02:53 pm (UTC)
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Karl Rove's consistent strategy has been to attack an opponent on the very grounds where his candidate is weakest. For instance, military records. You would think Bush would want to stay away from discussing military records when his opponent has 5 purple hearts. That's not how Rove works, and amazingly enough it works well for him. So you take someone who has a consistent voting record and make them appear like a flip-flopper. It's genius. Rove is our very own Goebbels.

I really like your idea. I definately think it's what we need to hear.
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From:[info]daghain
Date:September 15th, 2004 03:04 pm (UTC)
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> Let's be honest, here: Al-Qaida are smart fucking people. They've been experts at analyzing our weaknesses and striking where we weren't looking.

I don't oppose any of these heightened security measures (well, I might, if I saw a cost/benefit analysis...inspecting everything in our ports could well be paralyzing). But I don't think you're looking at the situation the right way. If Al-Qaeda are experts at analyzing our weaknesses, and we've been leaving these big, gaping holes, then why in the world haven't they _hit_ us in them? Or even tried? I bet half the people reading this, if they had Al-Qaeda's money and lives to spend, could terrorize this country pretty effectively. But Al-Qaeda's done nothing here for three years.

Patronizing as it sounds in places, this is the best answer I've seen yet. Terrorism as theater...
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:September 15th, 2004 03:12 pm (UTC)
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Actually, history shows that Al-Qaeda has traditionally taken a two- to three-year break between attacks, even when they had the relatively-unchallenged attacks off of US soil. Thus, "They haven't done it yet" isn't a convincing argument to me.

I agree with the guy, though. Al-Qaeda isn't going to win their goals via their methods, except for the damage they can do when the public panics and decides to erode our liberties. They may even take out a city (God forbid), but they're not going to cripple our economy and drive us under.
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From:[info]nsingman
Date:September 15th, 2004 03:36 pm (UTC)
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I found this via [info]kyburg. By way of a brief (political) introduction and disclosure, I'm a radical libertarian who believes that Bush deserves to be fired, and Kerry doesn't deserve to be hired.

That said, it is refreshing to read sentiments that promote a candidate rather than simply tear down the other guy (however much the tearing down is deserved). I'm glad I'm not forced to choose either major candidate, though, and I won't.
From:[info]hobomagic
Date:September 15th, 2004 04:13 pm (UTC)
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> Bush deserves to be fired, and Kerry doesn't deserve to be hired.

Hear here! Or was it hear hear?
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From:[info]swahiligrl
Date:September 15th, 2004 04:18 pm (UTC)

Something that bugs me...

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The problem with most John Kerry supporters is that they're not really for John Kerry - and it shows. Whenever you ask someone why they're voting for Kerry, instead what you get is a vitriolic listing of all the bad things that Bush has done. Ask them what Kerry plans to do when he's in office, and you get a blank stare.

This way of thinking just pisses me off. It does nothing but show blatant irresponsibility and immaturity on the part of the voter. One can easily take it to extremes and say, "Oh really? So, you'd vote for good o'le Charles Manson?" I realize that's ridiculous, but that's basically what one is saying when they make that "Anybody but Bush in 2004" statement.

Bush wanted to invade Iraq, so he said "Hey, there's a threat there," and then shifted to the "It's good that we brought democracy there" reasoning when the threat didn't pan out, and now that the torture trials are hitting the headlines he is now moving towards not mentioning Iraq at all. Yet for some reason, that constantly shifting array of "Why Iraq was bad" not considered flip-flopping.

In other words, Bush lies as well. He promises a lot of things and doesn't do 'em, either - the difference is that Bush does whatever the hell he wants and then lies about why he's doing it, whereas most politicians will lie about what they're going to do.*


Ok, this is a bit off-topic, but it's something that bugs me very, very much.

There is a massive difference between outright lying and making a bad (other people's opinion, not mine) decision based on faulty information. The former makes one coniving. The latter just makes one incompetent when the right information finally comes to light.

Pres. Bush had information that led both he and the CIA to believe that there were WMD. They've got arial shots of what they believe are WMD's, they've got ground reports of supposed WMD, etc. Some in the senate :coughKerrycough: even believed there were WMD and that was the motivating factor behind voting to give the President the authority to go to war. But, some :coughAgainKerrycough: have conveniently forgotten about that. The WMD's aren't there now, so it looks very, very bad for Bush.

However, I don't think this constitutes as "lying." Merely a fault in the information and, in turn, a fault in the President's decision to go to war.

I'm not saying I agree/disgree with the war or our reasons for going into it. I'd rather not mention my stance on the war as it leads people to think I like drowning kittens and punching blind orphans. But, even I know that the whole WMD reason for going to war turned out to be a fiasco, but not because Bush knowingly lied about why we were going to war. Sure, he's putting spin on it now to try and look better, re: your paragraph on politicians being, well, politicians. But, I don't believe for one minute that he knew there were no WMD and decided to use it as his reason for going to war anyway.

--Swa
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:September 15th, 2004 04:26 pm (UTC)

Re: Something that bugs me...

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There is a very fine line between "lying" and "cooking poor information so it comes up the way you want it to." Personally, I feel that Bush crossed that line - and then turned it to straight lies when he said, "We invaded to make Iraq free," when the whole way he sold it was that we were invading to neutralize Iraq as a threat.

It can be argued either way, of course - but the CIA evidence was shoddy even by contemporary accounts and Bush chose to believe it. I choose to interpret that as a willing twisting of the facts to meet a presupposed conclusion, which is essentially lying. You can argue, with equal fervor, that it's incompetence or perhaps being too trusting. Either way is fine.
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From:[info]lordindra
Date:September 15th, 2004 04:55 pm (UTC)
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Kerry also went after BCCI, the bank that was the institution of choice(knowingly) for terrorists and south american drug cartels. He managed to completely destroy it in seven countries, over the objections of the first Bush administration, leading to its collapse in those countries he couldn't directly destroy it in.

Over 2,000 years ago, the greatest military mind to ever live(Sun Tzu) established that the best way to defeat an enemy is to remove their ability to fight. And interfering with your enemies financing is a damn good way to reduce that ability to fight. Kerry's statements in favor of cooperating with other nations rather than pushing them around- he does that there won't be as many pissed off people that want to kill us, reducing the terrorists pool of potential recruits. While we might still need to go out and fight on occasion, if you take down the terrorists support infrastructure, and reduce their potential recruting pool, that fight will be much easier and we will bleed a lot less in the process.

Most of Kerry's flip flops are blown out of proporion. On the Iraq war, he said he did feel it was a good thing for America, and still does- his current opposition to it is because Bush mismanaged it, not that he's flip flopping on the underlying motivations. Same as with No Child Left Behind. He liked the idea, but doesn't like how it has been run afterwards. The bill to fund the Iraq war, he was complaining about where the money was coming from, not that our troops were getting stuff to keep them alive(in fact, he had voted in favor of an earlier version with a different funding plan). His abortion flip flop, it was 13 years between positions, more than enough time to have a bona fide change of heart. Some of his statements about terrorism, pre 9/11 and post 9/11, well, after terrorists change the game by taking down two 110 storie buildings, that changes the underlying situation enough that you SHOULD change your approach somewhat to adapt.
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From:[info]erinlin
Date:September 15th, 2004 06:09 pm (UTC)
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Enlighten me: what is this whole "Kerry voted against body armor for the troops" thing I keep hearing about?
From:[info]noumignon
Date:September 15th, 2004 06:32 pm (UTC)
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Well, snopes.com has the take I like the most, maybe that means it's spin.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/weapons.asp

Basically in the last decade Kerry cast votes against three defense appropriations bills, which cover thousands of line items for weapons systems, personnel costs, facilities maintenance, etc. So it's not really fair to pull one thing out and say, "Kerry voted not to pay Tommy Franks' salary!"
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From:[info]littlehooli
Date:September 15th, 2004 06:42 pm (UTC)
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where do you get your information from? I'd like to read it for myself.
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From:[info]theferrett
Date:September 15th, 2004 08:26 pm (UTC)
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Some of it's from Kerry's site; some of it's from the link posted. The chemical plant/airport/nuclear plant information is a mixture of various articles - Salon had a big one on the shoulder-mounted rocket launcher problem (which was later backed up in, I believe, Time), and the nuclear and chemical plants have been an inconsistently back-story thing in various magazines.
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From:[info]madshrubbery
Date:September 15th, 2004 06:48 pm (UTC)
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I think I learned more about my candidate (in a way I can understand) in the time I spent reading this than all of the time I've been a member of [info]ljdemocrats and [info]johnkerry04. Thanks!
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From:[info]quizzicalsphinx
Date:September 15th, 2004 06:51 pm (UTC)
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I never thought I'd say this, but I'm starting to miss Howard Dean.
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From:[info]greybeta
Date:September 15th, 2004 07:42 pm (UTC)
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Sensei, you always say it better than I can.
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From:[info]tallantros
Date:September 15th, 2004 08:21 pm (UTC)
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Thank you. This election has been more than difficult for me because everybody I know has a new anti-Bush joke or some reason why I should vote "not-Bush." It has made me feel very disenfranshised with this whole election. Thank you for something that has a positive outlook.

With the information that I've found in this post, I think that I will vote Kerry because I can know vote for him knowing that even if he doesn't have my full support, he has a lot of it and that's a whole hell of a lot more than he had before I read this post. So, to [info]theferrett and to everybody that commented with useful information, thank you.
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From:[info]chipuni
Date:September 15th, 2004 09:33 pm (UTC)
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From the Kerry Blog:

“Today, we heard more of the same distortions from the President about the situation in Iraq. George W. Bush keeps saying that things are getting better even when we all know that’s just not true. The fact is, no matter what he says, all of us can see for ourselves what’s happening in Iraq – we can see it on the front pages and on the nightly news. But why would we expect George Bush to level with us about Iraq? He never has.

“So I’ll be straight with you: things are getting worse. More than a thousand Americans have been killed. Instability is rising. Violence is spreading. Extremism is growing. There are now havens for terrorists that weren’t there before. And the Pentagon has even admitted that entire regions of Iraq are now controlled by insurgents and terrorists. The situation is serious – and we need a president who will set a new direction and be straight with the American people.

“The bottom line: it was wrong for America to go it alone. And now every American is paying the price. Almost all the casualties are the sons and daughters of America. And nearly 90 percent of the cost is coming out of your pocket. The price-tag so far: $200 billion and rising every day. That’s $200 billion we’re not investing in health care and education. That’s $200 billion we’re not investing to make sure no child is left behind. That’s $200 billion we’re not investing in new and better jobs. That’s $200 billion we’re not investing in homeland security, to protect our airports, our subways, our bridges and tunnels.”

From:[info]hobomagic
Date:September 16th, 2004 05:43 am (UTC)
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So why did he say just last week that, knowing what he knows now, he'd STILL have voted to authorize the war?

Thats flip-flopping. Also, saying the iraq and afgahnistan money isn't for homeland security is ludicris. The only way to eliminate terrorism is to end the regims that support it and the failed states that create it, and thats expensive work.
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From:[info]vverevvolf
Date:September 15th, 2004 11:26 pm (UTC)
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Hmm... Can't say I agree with your stance on the issues, but I am glad that you have your reasons for voting Kerry rather than just riding the "We Hate Bush" Train.

Personally, the way I see it currently, is Kerry may be strong on Defence, but Bush is stronger on Offence, and right now the worse thing we could do right now is run home, put the shields up, and pray everything turns out alright over there. I doubt that this would happen, but with Kerry it'll happen alot sooner than it would with Bush.
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From:[info]pristineanomaly
Date:September 16th, 2004 02:17 am (UTC)
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Do you know what Kerry actually intends to do to enforce homeland security?
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