Thanks for the great link! Oh, what fun!!

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Did the Ghostbusters residuals dry up or something?

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I think everyone was onboard for GB3 apart from Bill Murray.

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Nah. He's got enough money to last him, if he wants. Which makes this even more bizarre.

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I suspect that bmajors knew that and was just being snarky.

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Charlie's Angels was excellent - probably the best of the crop of remake movies (unless X-Men counts as a remake). It beats Spiderman, Hulk, that bloody other cop show remake with the guy from There's Something About Mary in it, and, well, everything else.

Charlie's Angels 2, however, was a bag of arse, and Bill Murray wouldn't have saved it a jot. That said, you're probably still correct in your comparison, since the Garfield movie looks an order of magnitude more intolerable just based on the box-cover or poster or whatever it is depicted on the IMDB entry.

So I'm not saying he's right to turn down Charlie's Angels 2 to work on Garfield, but he *was* right to turn down Charlie's Angels 2.

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I have to agree; CA2 was... well, "a bag of ass" pretty much covers it, yeah.

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He didn't turn it down, Lucy Liu complained that he upstaged her or something, and so they didn't rehire him.

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You haven't seen Garfield. It's unfair that it's going to suck worse than Charlie's Angels Full Throttle. Does it have any chance of being good? HELL NO. But it could be less than completely unwatchable. I don't think it will be, but it could be.

Plus, when it comes to being in a better turd or a worse turd I say take the bigger paycheck to time spent ratio. It's not like he turned down Lord of the Rings for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

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It's true. I won't really judge it, since I have no intention of seeing it. But until I start hearing opinions from trusted friends to the contrary, I'm not gonna believe it's good.

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I thought he'd turned it down to work on Lost in Translation. Garfield came later (and it does indeed look dreadful).

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I liked Shakes The Clown...

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So did I. I saw a showing with Bobcat Goldthwait, incidentally.

But a repository of fine acting it is not.

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did the script writers ever read Garfield? There's no way he'd get off his fat kitty arse to rescue Odie, unless somehow all the lasagne was stolen too...

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The movie is going to be horrible. That strip generator, however, is great fun.

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I fully plan on liking Garfield. I have amazing powers of taste-and-disbelief suspension when necessary and, since my son has been squeeing essentially nonstop since December about the Garfield movie, it will in fact be necessary.

It's a shame it won't be Lorenzo Music, though. He took cheesy snark to new levels.

Helga

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His voiceover stuff redefined "sardonic."

Wasn't he "Carlton, Your Doorman" too?

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Yes, he was. :D

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Did he not also provide the voice for the Peter Venkman character on The Real Ghostbusters cartoon show? (Originally a Bill Murray character)

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A Garfield strip was the first thing I ever read.

--m4

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A menu was the first thing I ever read. Which raises the question: Does first reading about food make you fat?

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If that's true I suppose reading about an obese cat(who's proud of it) probably contributed to my own rotundness.

--m4

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hey WAIT a MINUTE!~ Garfield is the GOD of CATS! He got a big promotion here.!!!! LOL I have always loved Garfield. :)


That new Bosley sucked donkey dicks though. I HATED THAT!!!!!

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I was under the impression tha Bill Murray didn't so much turn down CAII so much as he wasn't allowed to be involved. I recall that there was a tremendous amount of tension between him and the stars.

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I heard Bill Murray refused to do CA II because Lucy Liu was (allegedly) so heinous in the first movie.

- Tyldak

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Apparently Murray said something along the lines of "Well, we know where all the talent on you is," and stared at her boobs. This did not go over well.

Which is funny, because if you were going to pick on one of the three actresses, I'd say Cameron Diaz is the weakest link.

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Well, Garfield just isn't Garfield without the voice of Lorenzo Music.
He was the voice from the cartoon series, as well as for all of Garfield's holiday specials.

Oh, and for the record, I have no choice but to know this stuff.... Jim Davis is from Muncie, Indiana, where I grew up. I remember many a dinner with he and my mother (city councilwoman), my step father (county commissioner) and the Mayor.

Paws Inc. was just a couple of miles from my house.

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I briefly considered sucking it up and taking the DD to this CGI horror. Y'know, when a movie is made of something from my past, it's usually a viciously disappointing dreadfest like The Cat in the Hat(I don't usually disrespect something I haven't seen, but, c'mon, I can tell teh suxxors when I see it writ THAT big!)

But it would be nigh impossible to make a Garfield movie that I could possibly like. Yet, I was considering taking the DD to this one, and you saved me from the likelihood of having to gouge out my eyes afterwards.

Two Garfieldian connections: The usually mediocre-at-best comic strip "Pearls Before Swine" recently had a series in which one of the main characters threatened the writer with ruining the strip by ending it will Garfield punchlines (he had a digest of Garfield cartoons to use as a cheatsheet), and this
by the ever-spendid, Lore, of Brunching Shuttlecocks fame.

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"Mediocre-at-best"? Eat your words. I love the metahumor of Pearls before Swing.

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Boy howdy, that link really made me miss "The Dysfunctional Family Circus". Just as any idiot could take Bil Keane original art and make a caption much funnier than anything that might actually appear with that original art, anyone can take the stamp pads used by Jim Davis and his legion of illustrators and make something approximating a Garfield strip. Sadly, they still can't make Garfield funny.

Now, the real challenge should be mixing Garfield panels with Bloom County panels: two horrendously overrated, unfunny comics put together in unnatural forms might lead to comedy. After all, my first marriage was best described as an Absolutely Fabulous/Farscape crossover, and it offered plenty of entertainment for everyone outside of the blast zone.

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You didn't like Bloom County?

Please take the 9mm retirement plan.

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I didn't say that I didn't like it: I just said that it was an eighth-rate Doonesbury ripoff that sucked farts out of dead cats and that Berke Breathed did for comic strips what Douglas Adams did for science fiction. There's a difference.

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I suppose you think that Calvin and Hobbes was just a eighth-rate Pogo ripoff, and that The Far Side was an unfunny bunch of weirdness, too.

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Actually, while I have to admit that The Far Side jumped the shark around 1989, both it and Calvin & Hobbes expanded upon their inspirations in new and wonderful ways. Bloom County, though, is usually defended by the same people who thought that Battlestar Galactica was one of the greatest TV shows ever produced, and it does no good to argue with those fanatics, because they definitely don't want to have their illusions punctured.

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Wait, there are people who really think that about Battlestar Galactica? How horrifying.

As long as you like 2 of the trinity, that's good, but it's similar to liking Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, but not Jeff Beck.

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Who doesn't like "Shakes the Clown"? You really hate that movie? Wow. I never met anyone who hated it. Why?

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I didn't say I hated it. In fact, I like it. But it's no Godfather.

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Then again, it would mean that Murray got to just sit on his ass on a recording studio, rather than spending all day staring at Drew Barrymore and Camer... hmm; I seem to have undercut my own case. Never mind.

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Considering your love of sex, penis spam, RPG's, and the name Ferrett, I felt you had to see this...

http://www.lorebrandcomics.com/penisenlargement.html

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I like it!

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I think Bill Murray is a perfect candidate for voicing Garfield... However "Garfield the Movie"!? That in itself sounds like an abortion. If there were a new animated series or something with Bill Murray on board - that would be cool, but certainly a tacky movie is not cool.

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You can voice a cartoon in a fortnight - voice acting is easy and painless compared to live-action, with no need for lighting, makeup, extras, trucks, locations...

If he wanted to do both, and both productions wanted him, he would have done both.

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I know lots of people in relationships like that.

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Alas, we don't have large LJ icons or I might consider it.

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According to rumour, Murray failed to get on with all three stars of Charlie's Angels. Which, when you consider that they are the stars, and that Barrymore was/is an executive producer for the franchise, pretty much guaranteed he wasn't going to be asked back.

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