theferrett: The Sensate Nature

The Ferrett (

theferrett) wrote,
@ 2008-03-18 09:58:00

The Sensate Nature
I really don't feel like dropping sixty bucks on a sex toy that I wouldn't use all that much, but I do wonder how closely the Fleshlight - essentially, a high-tech vagina replication in a flashlight casing - replicates the experience. I'm fairly sure it's not as close as the manufacturers claim, but the advances in vaginal simulation technology have come a long way in the decades since I last purchased one.

(It was this awful, Goodyear tire-rubber thing that vibrated like an angry chihuahua and wasn't at all satisfying. One usage, one garbage canning.)

The video - which, if you need me to tell you is NSFW, you are a total idiot - is absolutely hysterical, though. Okay, the women fingering themselves next to the Fleshlight to show how the skin stretches in much the same way is a valid sales tool... But if you ever see me next to a naked woman who looks like these girls and I'm fucking the sex toy that she's clasping to her stomach, please shoot me in the head.

(That said, it's probably a lot better than the actual sales tool of a fat guy in a dumpy apartment, dejectedly squishing this thing up and down his half-erect member. No amount of cutting-edge techno music could save that one.)

Also, the best part of the Fleshlight site is that you can choose one of several modelled orifices (orifi?) for your pleasure, starting with the obvious vagina, mouth, and anal configurations... And ending with the "Stealth" orifice, a bare coin slot for "someone who is a bit shy about their toys."

Okay, dude. If I walk into your room and discover a huge black encased thing with this pink plastic rubbery slot at the end in a flesh tone, I'm not going to think, "Gosh, what is this mysterious device?" and assume it's some sort of shop vac. I'm going to assume that the insides of this tube are roiling with your clotted sperm, drop it, and back away slowly.

But I remain curious. I'm also wildly, wildly curious to know what a Realdoll is like when you're actually using it... But Gini, strangely enough, has forbidden me from dropping our tax refund on a $5,000 sex toy. "But it'd stimulate both the economy and me!" I cry, but no. I think it's 'cause she just hates pets.

The sad thing is that there's probably a Realdoll rental facility somewhere, but the idea of wearing a condom to have sex with an artificial whore just strikes me as being too ridiculous to bear.

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	rogue1717 2008-03-18 02:11 pm UTC (link)
	ya know... there are probably thousands of men going to that site just to fap at the demo video.. (Reply to this)

	phraugie 2008-03-18 02:14 pm UTC (link)
	That video is hysterical! (Reply to this)

	twfarlan 2008-03-18 02:22 pm UTC (link)
	C'mon, you could write up a review and write the purchase off on your taxes as a business expense. :) Probably the same thing if you found the RealWhorehouse. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2008-03-18 02:22 pm UTC (link)
	fleshlights are pretty good, especially when pre-warmed. but they suffer from not self-lubricating. wedging it somewhere also lets you thrust rather than use your arm. (Reply to this)

(Anonymous)
2008-03-18 02:23 pm UTC (link)

I have something like the flesh light without the hard plastic case and it rocks. And I fuck the toy with the beautiful woman at my side, when her chronic pain is too much to allow sex and she wants me to get off. Or on those sexy occasions when she feels good enough, but my back is out and I can't play the way I'd like to.

The glamour of growing old.

Alas, sometimes relationships don't always wind up they way we would like in our dreams. Partners get sick. Partners hurt. Creative minds find solutions that are merely "OK" and sometimes everybody gets to share the disappointment of a less than ideal sex life.

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	(Anonymous) 2008-03-18 06:14 pm UTC (link)
	When we went through our marriage counseling, the paster made us promise not to have sex during our time with the counseling, until we were married. This was about two months. Even as young as we are, we found ways of "cheating," like what you describe. Masturbating side by side with toys, for example. (Reply to this)(Parent)

anivair
2008-03-18 02:44 pm UTC (link)

I got a faux vagina as a gift once and so I had to use it a few times just to check.

it wasn't great. Too weird, too tight (too tight? yes, I said too tight) and honestly, I do a better job myself without it, as does any woman part. It was too much effort for not enough awesome.

the flesh light might be different.

the real doll is neat looking. i want one just to take to parties so I can see how long till someone hits on it.

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	shiftercat 2008-03-18 04:12 pm UTC (link)
	If you find most masturbators too tight, you'd probably want something in the style of a simple sleeve like the hand job stroker. You apply whatever pressure you want; the sleeve (with lube) just adds some extra sensation and keeps you from getting friction burn. Also, with something that loose, you can turn it inside out for easy cleaning. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	anivair 2008-03-18 05:30 pm UTC (link)
	What I got was like a sleeve. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it was too small "for me" I'm saying it was too small for "most guys". I am not a huge man at all. I mean, i'm not small either, but you'd think that sex toys would be built for the average guy. I'd hate to get a real doll and find that I can't use the damn thing. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	shiftercat 2008-03-18 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	The hand-job stroker is really loose. As in, all the pressure is provided from your hand. Along the same lines, and even easier to clean, they have masturbation aids that don't close around the penis at all, but are shaped like a pad or mitt. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	blackavar 2008-03-19 12:26 am UTC (link)
	Hah. Of course, I initially read that as "I got a faux vagina as a gift (for someone) once" rather than "I got a faux vagina as a gift (from someone) once", and was touched (in the sense that requires counseling for recovery) by the consideration shown in trying it out. snicker (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	anivair 2008-03-19 11:45 am UTC (link)
	Yeah. I'm a really kind guy. "Here. I tested it just to make sure it would work for your member!" (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kmg_365 2008-03-18 02:46 pm UTC (link)
	But Gini, strangely enough, has forbidden me from dropping our tax refund on a $5,000 sex toy. Wait...didn't Gini lust after the life-sized Han Solo Frozen In Carbonite ~~sex toy~~ collectible? Maybe you both can stimulate the economy: Real Doll for Ferrett and Han Solo for Gini. (Reply to this)

	ponygirl118 2008-03-18 02:49 pm UTC (link)
	5,000?! & I felt guilty dropping 30 bucks on a toy... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	irishgypsie 2008-03-18 06:57 pm UTC (link)
	Actually the female doll costs $6,499. The cheapest female product we sell (I work for RealDoll) is the torso, which is $750. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	angelbelladona 2008-03-18 02:59 pm UTC (link)
	Save some money. Get two water balloons and fill them with warm water. Lube it up and go to town. ;-> (Reply to this)

bart_calendar
2008-03-18 03:22 pm UTC (link)

A lot of the freelance writing work I do is ads for sex toys and I've asked the sellers about the Fleshlight.

Apparently it feels OK, but is such a pain in the ass to actually use that they get a lot of complaints.

First off you have to heat the thing up in hot water for 10 to 15 minutes before you use it if you want it to feel like flesh (the hot water both softens the material inside and also makes it not feel cold.)

Then, if it takes you longer than 10 to 15 minutes to cum (depending on how warm you made it) the material shrinks and can actually stick to your penis - requiring you to then take a bath with it on to get it off your penis.

When you are done with it you have to wash it - which is hard because you've generally put your gunk pretty deep into it.

Finally you have to sprinkle corn starch into the thing or else you risk the material cracking while it dries.

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bonerici
2008-03-18 03:29 pm UTC (link)

i read somewhere in an interview with a guy that actually owns a realdoll that even though he's the only one that ever uses it, he still uses a condom with his real doll. Why? It's so difficult to clean after each use, he was spending more time cleaning than realdolling so he gave up and started using condoms.

Now, you don't have to buy a brand new realdoll. realdolls aren't that expensive on the used market. And hey, let's face it, if you can bring yourself to have sex with non-virginal women, why not buy yourself a non-virginal realdoll?

or get a candy 18 doll these are short real doll style dolls for $1,200

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	kid_lit_fan 2008-03-18 03:50 pm UTC (link)
	I was one of the people who chipped in to buy one for a friend's, and he allowed the attendees at his party to stick their fingers in it (w/lube). I was impressed. It felt like a tight vagina. (Reply to this)

	amurana 2008-03-18 04:02 pm UTC (link)
	I'm a doll lover, and so I've always wanted real dolls. Not for sexy reasons, just to dress up and style! I am lame. Luckily, I'm not lame enough to ever waste 5k on something so stupid. That's what friends are for! HAHAHAHAHAHA (Reply to this)

Advice from a former sex-toy saleslady

shiftercat
2008-03-18 04:07 pm UTC (link)

Along with the report from

bart_calendar, another point against the Fleshlight is that a lot of guys like to be able to apply pressure from their own hand, and to do that with a Fleshlight, you have to take the interior out of its casing, same as you have to do to clean it.

As well as the prohibitive cost, I would personally stay away from patronizing the RealDoll industry, because the kind of people who keep them in business creep me right the fuck out. (Though to give credit where it's due, the RealDoll company will cease doing repairs if one of their clients keeps bringing in a doll with clearly intentional damage inflicted upon it.)

Now, I bought the mermaid for my guy, and he likes it quite a bit. It's tight and easy to clean; also, I liked the design of a miniature woman wrapped around a tube -- no headless torsos or weirdly disembodied parts. I also think this design is nice, plus that example is silicone and won't set off anyone's allergies.

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	Re: Advice from a former sex-toy saleslady rhapsody_98 2008-03-18 06:19 pm UTC (link)
	Intentional damage?? Like... what? Are they slitting throats or are they bringing them in to repair rope burns or what? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Advice from a former sex-toy saleslady shiftercat 2008-03-18 11:18 pm UTC (link)
	There weren't any specifics. Some damage, apparently, seems to be from overenthusiastic sex, but some was intentional damage to the face and genitals. Unfortunately the person didn't cite an article, but it was apparently from someone who did repairs on RealDolls but isn't hired by the company. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Advice from a former sex-toy saleslady irishgypsie 2008-03-18 07:01 pm UTC (link)
	the RealDoll company will cease doing repairs if one of their clients keeps bringing in a doll with clearly intentional damage inflicted upon it. False. We don't do repairs AT ALL. We sell repair kits, and that's it. Also, the majority of our clients are actually very nice, decent people. Yes, there are some creeps, but there are creeps in EVERY industry. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Advice from a former sex-toy saleslady shiftercat 2008-03-18 11:20 pm UTC (link)
	Checked my source, such as it is. Apparently it was an article by someone who did repairs on RealDolls, not someone from the RealDoll company itself. Unfortunately I can't speak for the article itself, as they did not include a link. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	bookwyrmtx 2008-03-18 04:13 pm UTC (link)
	I have a fleshlight that a friend of mine bought me as a gag gift. Its ok, and feels kinda, sorta, if you close your eyes and think about church, like the real thing. I wouldn't pay a bunch of money for it, but I do think its better than the hand. Wow. I can't believe I just posted that. :D (Reply to this)

	vrax 2008-03-18 04:25 pm UTC (link)
	Does she really hate pets? (Reply to this)

	fionnghuala 2008-03-18 04:52 pm UTC (link)
	This is my favourite flavour of Ferrett magic =D (Reply to this)

	ibsulon 2008-03-18 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	I had one. (None of this gag gift bullshit - yes, I did buy it for myself.) The actual exterior casing broke. It was a major pain in the ass to clean, and it was pretty unwieldy. Absolutely not worth it IMHO. (Reply to this)

Libel

irishgypsie
2008-03-18 06:54 pm UTC (link)

Hi there. I linked over here from a mention by

ilubmoney in my journal. I work for Abyss Creations, the creators of RealDoll. I just wanted to point out that the article you linked to is a pack of lies and is infuriating to everyone who works here. I'm new to the company, but my boss just filled me in on the true story. This Grant guy did come here to write an article about RealDolls, but he NEVER had sex with one (he was under constant supervision by a woman the entire time he was here) and he misrepresented us in numerous ways.

There is no RealDoll rental facility anywhere, because that's gross and insanitary.

The best way to find out what it's actually like to have sex with a RealDoll without buying one is to go to http://www.dollforum.com. Doll owners from around the world plus Abyss Creations staff contribute frequently to that site and it's a wealth of TRUE information.

Edited at 2008-03-18 06:55 pm UTC

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	mysticjuicer 2008-03-18 07:02 pm UTC (link)
	"But it'd stimulate both the economy and me!" I cry, but no. I think it's 'cause she just hates pets. LOL You're at the top of your game with this one. (Reply to this)

	the_magician 2008-03-18 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	But Gini, strangely enough, has forbidden me from dropping our tax refund on a $5,000 sex toy. "But it'd stimulate both the economy and me!" I cry, but no. I think it's 'cause she just hates pets. No, it's because you're a guy and so she'd have to clean up after you :-) (Reply to this)

	pinwiz 2008-03-18 07:30 pm UTC (link)
	The video on the Fleshlight site is just plain stupid. The device is wonderful. Yes, I own one. Granted, I own the Fleshjack which is the gay branded version of the same item AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I OWN. Srsly. (Reply to this)

	cleobourne 2008-03-18 09:04 pm UTC (link)
	Too ridiculous to bear I assume was not an intentional pun? (Reply to this)

Fleshlight

wahmuk
2008-03-19 01:10 am UTC (link)

I have a Fleshlight and four different inserts. Not only are there different "looks" to the end you poke at, there are different textures and tightnesses and you can mix-and-match to some extent.

I have no shortage of real pussy to keep me happy, but sometimes I have a self-loving session with the Fleshlight and I really like it. And I've never warmed it in water for fifteen minutes, I just lube it up and do the thing. It's not that complicated.

Some posters here talk about how difficult it is to clean one... I haven't had a problem with it. And it doesn't get sticky, I've mostly used ID Glide with it. After cleaning it and before storing, I put a little bit of talcum powder on it to keep it from sticking to itself, but it's never been stuck to me at all.

It was in my price range and suits my needs. A RealDoll looks like a lot of fun, but is somewhat out of my budget.

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noumignon
2008-03-19 05:28 am UTC (link)

I own a fleshlight. I liked it OK for a while (the cornstarch dusting is not necessary) but it seems like it just got too tight, even with the cover screwed all the way off (man, was it tight before I figured that out). It comes in like smooth, ribbed, tight, and ultra tight and I have the least tight version, which makes me wonder, how does it compare to an actual vagina? If they're approximately the same than it's a good thing I never bothered to secure a girlfriend.

I definitely prefer the tip I got from Men's Health magazine, or was it Maxim? Get one of those orange swim bladders little kids put around their arms so they can float in the pool. You can adjust the resistance, turn it inside out to clean it and it works great as a sleeve or taped down. And it's $3!

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	thegreatjohnzo 2008-03-19 07:30 am UTC (link)
	well, if fleshlights and real dolls are being debated here, why not bring this up? http://nerdapproved.com/bizarre-gadgets/area-51-love-doll-nsfw/ why, why, why? (Reply to this)

	gkingsley 2008-03-19 02:06 pm UTC (link)
	The Real Dolls freak me out. They're all glassy eyed and creepy - real looking enough, until you look at their faces. ::shudder:: My husband would be expressly forbidden to bring one home if they cost $50.00, never mind $5,000.00 - I don't even like the pictures up on the computer. (Reply to this)

ravenblack
2008-03-20 01:12 am UTC (link)

I too have owned a fleshlight that was not a gag gift - one part long distance relationship, one part horniness, two parts curiosity. Er, I do only have one set of parts though.

I wasn't impressed. With the case on it's unusably tight, with the case off it... meh, I suppose it feels *quite* like real sex parts, but I wouldn't particularly enjoy having sex with a completely immobile and non-responsive real partner that has to be wedged in place or clutched in my hand, either. Probably a worthwhile product if you're an uphill wanker.

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	ubergeek2 2008-03-21 06:10 am UTC (link)
	If you want to know, I can tell you. \/\/ (Reply to this)

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