The Watchtower of Destruction: The Ferrett's Journal - Farewell, My Love
December 13th, 2002
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Farewell, My Love

So here's an interesting tidbit: I'm thirty-three years old and have never known anyone who died.

Really. My grandfather died six months before I was born, and all of my extant relatives have survived, unchecked, for as long as I've been alive. That's better than twenty people, some pretty damn old, surviving over thirty years without a stutter. Only one of my friends cacked off - and he was an acquaintance who died of a heroin overdose in Mexico.

That's an amazing run - but I know how statistics work. The thin end of the bell curve gets handed to someone, and that man is me. My experiences in all other aspects of life run deep; I've known hundreds of people intimately, I think I have a pretty vast cross-section of life within me...

But I've never seen death. And when I went back home for Thanksgiving and found myself cloaked in it, I realized how little I knew.

My uncle is shrinking.

Now, you have to understand how much my Uncle Tommy means to me; when I was growing up, he was essentially my father, but without all the responsibility attached to the role. My parents were having traumatic upheaval during the first eleven years of my life as the corpse of their marriage stopped twitching and began to cool on the slab - and Tommy was the one who picked up the slack.

My father says that he spent time with me as a child, but I don't really remember that; I remember Tommy, stick-thin and dressed in blue jeans and godawful Dexter-style plastic glasses that I only liked because they were, well, Tommy. I remember Tommy buying me comics at the Corner Store. Lots of comics. (I was a Spider-Man fan; Tommy preferred Archie and Veronica.) I remember him bringing me into New York when he went drinking with his friends - the long car rides there, talking about anything I wanted, and then him giving me a roll full of quarters to play Donkey Kong Jr. on the tabletop machine at the bar while he drank and tried to pick up chicks.

I remember Tommy and I, bored in the middle of a raging hurricane that was dousing the East Coast, walking out in the storm to go buy some comics from the Corner Store because it was something to do. The two of us slogged through literal rivers of runoff water that came up to my knees, whooping and hollering as the rain pelted us so hard that it stung like bees, and finally opening the door in complete triumph, so waterlogged we actually left about a gallon of water on the floor, revealing a surprised clerk looking up from a National Enquirer.

We bought comics. And somehow, we kept them dry on the way back.

Tommy got me my first date, in New York. Tommy was always willing to lend an ear when I wanted to talk, but could be quiet when I needed simple silence and the drone of MTV. Tommy always had a good word; he wasn't always right, particularly when it came to matters of the heart - that was Mom's domain - but he knew people. He did well. He warned me about drugs.

When I sucked my first (and only) dick in a moment of orgy-fueled experimentation and felt the immediate wave of panic that came after it - fuck, people get beaten for being gay, what would they say if they knew? - Tommy was the only person I told about it. Because he was the only person who deserved to know.

When I'm raising Erin and Amy, I'm not trying to be their father; in a very large sense, I don't know how. I'm trying to be Tommy.

And there's one other thing that you should know about Tommy; he's a hemophiliac. His blood? Doesn't clot - well, it does, but slowly. He gets terrible bruises at the slightest bumps. The blood that's leaked into his joints has eroded his cartilage; imagine a dry car, not a drop of oil anywhere in it, clanking and grinding along a bumpy road. When he was 35, he had the crippling arthritis of an 85-year-old; he's about 55 now.

I don't think there's a comparison for what Tommy goes through. Daily.

On one night in New York, Tommy and I had a deep discussion; it was the night he told me that he had gotten AIDS from a perfectly normal blood transfusion, before they'd started checking for it. (I had known he had something for about two years, and suspected it was AIDS, but they were trying to shield me - but I knew about AIDS long before it became public knowledge, thanks to my continual book reports on hemophilia. I believe that I may well have been the first child in history to insult someone by telling them they had AIDS, way back in 1981 when I was in fifth grade - needless to say, they didn't get the insult, which was probably for the best.)

Anyway. We stayed in a hotel, one of those nights where you drink down beer by the gallon but it never seems to affect you because you're talking. And I got a glimpse of Tommy's life that's never worn off:

Imagine living your entire life, having just one year to live.

That's what it was like for Tommy; hemophilia was deadly in the 1940s and pretty much meant you were morguefood within a year... But Tommy rode the curve of medical advances like a champ. Just when he was about to succumb to something that was going to do him in, new technology found an answer to keep him afloat.

It wasn't cheap; my grandmother's scrapbooks are filled with yellowed newspaper scraps of local celebrities holding Tommy aloft, usually in cowboy outfits - he loved cowboy flicks - at fundraisers for "Little Tommy Lucas." He was a poster boy, but the poster lied.

He spent about a third of his life in the hospital. Every time he fell off a swing, he'd get a three-day ER stay. Tommy got so good at taking injections that eventually, at ten years' old, the nurses began to come to Tommy asking him for lessons. He was ushered into the children's ward where he lovingly slid needles, painlessly, into the veins of quaking children.

They were scared. Tommy wasn't. He was there all the time.

Just as advances in cryogenic blood storage caught up with him, he got AIDS from a bad bag - and then, just as AIDS got to be treatable (though not easily), he caught hepatitis.

Uncle Tom has never expected to be alive for his next birthday. Not one birthday in fifty-five years.

Try to put yourself in those shoes. You fucking can't. Nobody can.

And when it turned out he had AIDS - and remember, this was in the first flurry of AIDS hysteria, when nobody really knew how you got it, condoms weren't necessarily safe but toilet seats and kissing could mean AIDS death, when celebrities filed lawsuits to prevent anyone knowing that they had it - Tommy withdrew gracefully from the dating scene, giving up a fairly fulfilling life to quietly exit in peace.

That was twenty years ago.

He's been waiting, quietly, ever since, his living room a slow coffin. And it's killing me.

You see, Tommy taught me how to fight. I grew up a lemming; I was slapped around by kids, too nervous to date, too unfocused to do well in school despite my prodigious intellect. Tommy was the one who inspired me - who taught me that you just didn't give in. You fucking fight it, all the way down the line. It doesn't matter what you're facing - you have to at least try to stand up to it, at least if you wanna keep your self-respect.

Tommy isn't the same man I knew.

He's content to sit in his living room with my dying grandmother - and she's fought the good fight for as long as I can remember, but is slowly riding the pine now - taking care of each other, ticking off the days until he dies. He doesn't do anything. He has no interests. He has no friends, no connections. He's been that way for fifteen years now, and his condition is as stable as his silent deathwish is.

It hurts to know that when my uncle dies, the only hole he will leave is in my heart.

He deserves so much more.

And he's not happy. I know this. I see him, and I see that quiet despair on his face - that face that used to be so animated with life, and which comes briefly and maddeningly alive when I talk to him sometimes - as he watches the television, a steam engine banked and stored neatly away.

And two days before Thanksgiving, we had a fight. It wasn't a big one - maybe two minutes' total, and nobody screamed - but it was huge; a subtle earthquake.

The issue was this: I gave Tommy my LiveJournal address - the only one in my family who got that privilege - and it turns out that he's never been. Why? Because his knees are so shot that he can't go downstairs, where his PC is.

Fine, said I. I'll move your computer upstairs. I'll even buy you a desk for it - that's a good Christmas present, right?

Wrong. Tommy didn't want it upstairs. He thought it would be ugly - and on a deeper level, I think he knew what I was trying to do. If the computer was up there, he'd have no excuse for not writing to me, for avoiding the way that I would get him to forge connections with others, and trying to get another community.

There I was, offering to share with him the intimacy that he'd said he missed with me - my most private writings. My deepest thoughts; the ones I can share with strangers and close friends, but no one in between.

He said that the internet was crap, that you could never know anybody on it - hello? Gini? - and the phone was worthless, too.

Then what do you have, Tommy? You have a fine excuse to sit in here in rot. I said that, and walked out, too pissed to even hug my ferret goodnight.

I seriously thought about handing my uncle an ultimatum: Either try to find some support group so you don't sit here in quiet despair, or I go. Steamed and confused, I walked next door to my mother's house, where I was staying.

Gini and my mother screamed at me for a very long time, telling me how selfish and naïve I was. "You're just making him uncomfortable," they said. "He wants to be there. What you want is the old Tommy back. That's not happening. What the fuck is he going to fight for? He's going to die soon. He doesn't have anything left!"

The argument was, essentially, he's made up his mind. Support him. Tell him you love him. Anything else will just make him miserable.

How can I do that when this is the man who taught me that life was worth it? That I could have - and deserve - more?

And you know, to a large extent both my mom and my wife are full of shit.

Tommy's on the verge of death only because he chooses to be there. There is a large amount of self-fulfilling prophecy there; yes, he is in horrible, soul-killing pain, and yes, he's in bad shape... But he could live for another twenty years if he wanted. He's banged up, but he's got a couple of miles left for him.

But ever since he pulled away from humanity almost fifteen years ago, he's isolated himself. He doesn't have anyone to touch him - and he doesn't want anyone to, because he's grumpy and hell, he's gonna die, so why bother? Tommy, my favorite uncle and possibly my favorite person in the whole world (he can battle it out with Gini and Bryan later), has put himself in the worst place he can be:

He's made himself helpless.

Gini and Mom say that he has no other choice, that when you have so little left you might as well not try any more - and that's fucked up. You always have a choice. That's what Tommy taught me. By that standard, I could still be in emotional high school, trembling at the opinions of others and waiting for that trip in the hallway.

They say he's close to death, and I don't know what it's like. That I can't judge him because I'm not in his shoes. And you know, that's always a convinenient excuse, isn't it? I've discussed the concept of "You can't judge me! You don't know me!" before, and hopefully blown it to pieces.

No, I've never been in soulkilling pain before - and I admit it probably makes things a lot tougher. On the other hand, you've never walked in my shoes of affective seasonal disorder... And I hope that if I ever start using that as an excuse to do fucking nothing, that you do blow my goddamned head off. You've never been in the marriage I was in with Gini - and I could have used that as an excuse to blow her off, right? I've been a thousand places that you've never been...

But in the end, there are choices that make you happy and choices that make you miserable.

Circumstances don't matter. Choices do.

Travel far or travel short, but you can always find a circumstance, unique to only you and your life, that you can use as an excuse to stay miserable. Because it's comfortable.

Rage, rage, my friends - it's all we have.

But the argument they did use - which is a valid one - is that I'm not going to change Tommy's mind....And wow, is that true. Years of living under the shadow (if not the fear) of death have made Tommy the stubbornest man alive: Why should I listen to you? Fuck you, I'll be dead in a year. They say that all I'll do is make him even more miserable as he digs his own grave with a spork, one tiny spoonful at a time.

And that is the correct choice. If I can't change his mind and make him better, I can at least not fuck up his life more.

So that's what I'm doing: Watching my uncle die. Watching my uncle be lonely. Watching him reap the fruits of the decision he made fifteen years ago - to isolate himself and wait for a death that, like a New York train, is always a little later than you'd think.

If he had made the choice fifteen years ago, back when it was still salvageable, that he was going to live until he died, he could be truly happy. He could still have friends. He could still go out. He could still be alive...

But he's told himself that he doesn't want that. He's settled. And worse, he's convinced himself that there are no other choices - that this is the only way things can be. He's built his cage, and he'll never break out.

And the sad thing is that he might live another fifteen years like this. Fifteen years ago, Gini and my mother would have been screaming at me for the exact same reason - "He has AIDS! It's incurable! What does he have left?" - except that the real horror is that none of us really know when we're going to die. Tommy had fifteen years left. Those fifteen years are gone, the potential inherent in them given up like the wrists of a suicide.

Tommy gave up hope at the wrong time.

Tommy's not really sad, but he'll never really be happy, either. He's chosen the comfort of a man in a snowbank, settling down and feeling sleepy as that tempting death by ice sinks in. It's not the worst way to go.

But I find that a terrible, terrible loss. He doesn't. And that makes me even sadder.

So I'll hold my uncle's hand, and I'll talk to him, and I'll tell him I love him - because I do. I'll watch him slowly suffocate, because that's the deepest form of love I have - the acceptance of resignation. Watching someone go down a path, a path that you would do anything to get them off of - and yet still staying by their side, because you love them, and it will be worse without you.

Goodnight, Tommy.

I love you. All of you. And I hope that somewhere, you know that you'll always be the truest love that I've ever had.

Love,
Your Nephew,
Billy

Current Music: Silence. Just... Silence.

(48 shouts of denial | Tell me I'm full of it)

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From:blisterguy
Date:December 13th, 2002 12:41 pm (UTC)
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on a lighter note, you know "the ferrett" name is sticking when it takes me a second to figure out who "billy" is.
i have no advice here though, other than say and do what you feel. it seems to have worked for you in the past.
good luck.
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From:princessmon
Date:December 14th, 2002 06:22 am (UTC)

I know you know this poem, but...

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What the hell. It seemed so frickin' appropriate. I'm frustrated on your behalf and I wish your uncle had made the decision to keep living...I see where you're coming from, even if I can't sympathize because I've never known anyone who died either. What you're doing is the right thing, though- all you have left is holding his hand and saying goodbye until you finally don't get a chance to say it anymore. Whatever gods there are had damn well better take care of your uncle when he meets up with them.


Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

~Dylan Thomas
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From:zoethe
Date:December 14th, 2002 07:56 am (UTC)

Re: I know you know this poem, but...

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Sorry, but it is a young man's poem written with neither understanding nor sympathy. Dylan Thomas wrote it when he was 23. He managed to drink himself to death at 39. He knew nothing of old age or physical infirmity, and didn't stick around to find out.

Don't get me wrong, it's a beautfiul poem. It just lacks a reality check.
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From:princessmon
Date:December 14th, 2002 04:05 pm (UTC)

Re: I know you know this poem, but...

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Perhaps you're right. But I do know he wrote it for his own father as he watched him die...I thought it might embody similar frustrations as Ferrett's.
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From:koibito007
Date:August 13th, 2003 06:43 pm (UTC)

Bows to you.

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Sometimes the stark beauty and profound rawness of your writing takes my breath away.

Someday, I may read the other stories- but the power- and depth- the impact- of this alone will take some time to digest.

"Watching someone go down a path, a path that you would do anything to get them off of - and yet still staying by their side, because you love them, and it will be worse without you."

...wow.
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From:theferrett
Date:May 31st, 2004 03:27 pm (UTC)
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I should add in the interest of correctness that I had an Uncle Mel, a good guy who did die. But he died when I was out of town, and I missed his funeral, and as such I've never registered it as death. It's like he was written out of the show. I know, it's weird.

Since then, an Aunt and Uncle of mine have passed on. I wasn't close to either of them. I'm still waiting.
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From:kibbles
Date:May 31st, 2004 03:53 pm (UTC)
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I can somewhat understand -- I had only one relative die that I was close with, and even though I was in my 20s, it still didn't quite hit.

Now, with Nana going into the hospice tomorrow, I have to deal with my own feelings, my family's feelings and my children's feelings.

Being the calculated person that I am, I am reading everything possible about death, dying, grief, children, emotions.

I know so many people who faced death over and over. Not me, I've been blissfully ignorant of the whole process.
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From:mojo_iv
Date:May 31st, 2004 03:35 pm (UTC)
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Could be worse, man. I've known several people who're died and yet I've never been to a funeral.

--m4
From:jendurrfukt
Date:May 31st, 2004 03:49 pm (UTC)
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utterly heart wrenching.
From:dkoleary
Date:May 31st, 2004 05:19 pm (UTC)
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I'm so sorry. My grandmother decided to ride a death that was not necessary and she rode it all the way down. It made me *enraged* for about two years. If she wouldn't rage against an unnecessary waste, I would and did. I had to accept her choice, because I couldn't change her choice, but I didn't have to like it. And I think you said the right thing to your uncle. If you love someone, you owe them honesty. Particularly that kind of honesty when that kind of stupid, painful decision is being made.
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From:thejunebug
Date:May 31st, 2004 08:03 pm (UTC)
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My father was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis before I was born, and all my life I watched him deteriorate. He died in my arms when I was 20 years old, paralyzed in a twisted body, weighing 90 lbs. What was hardest was watching him choose to move away from me and from life, watching him choose to die. But in the end I guess I realized that it was his choice to make, even if I would have chosen differently had it been me. There comes a time, too, when you realize that even letting them go in death is not as painful as that one moment when you acknowledge that they have a right to die.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 31st, 2004 11:26 pm (UTC)
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It's a hard line to draw between when to accept someone's resignation, and the desire to show them how to fight it.

Gods know I've had to redraw the damned thing enough times.

~Will
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From:tacologic
Date:June 1st, 2004 05:50 am (UTC)
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In some ways this kind of parallels how my dad went. Really incredibly difficult. Sucks, I know.
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From:kidsis
Date:June 1st, 2004 09:17 am (UTC)

This reminds me of so many things.

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I lost my dad to cancer a couple of years ago. I wasn't in contact with him at the time, and I had to find out third-hand what had happened. It was such a shock to me that he was gone - I still haven't recovered. My dad was a fighter also. He fought racism, a family who only cared about what money they could get from him, and a morphine addiction caused by surgery after surgery to repair his body after he got shot when I was 2. When he told me that he had been diagnosed with cancer 4 years before he died (the last time I had ever talked to him), I thought he'd get through it like he always got through everything else. His death shocked me and wounded me to my very core and it's affected everything I do. In some ways, I had given up on my life and didn't really care what happened to me until recently. And now I feel like I'm back there again. I see my friends and realize that most of them have given up on something good in their life. We are all a little like Tommy, even if sick part of us isn't physical. We are all settled in and waiting for the end, not seeing the use of fighting for a better life. We've done this for so long, we don't see a way out of it, but we all want things to be better.
The only way I can get out is to change, so change I will. And I'll fight. I'll fight hard and I'll fight dirty if I have to, but I'll keep fighting. I know that I may not be able to change my situation that much, but I will fight for it because it's what has to be done.
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From:astridsdream
Date:June 2nd, 2004 12:28 am (UTC)
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My grandmother has had a few strokes over the last few years. Used to be that she was always working on a quilt or something. Then the strokes took away her fine motor control. For a while, before the strokes, I was teaching her algebra. But then I ran out of time and left for college. Now whenever I'm home, all I see is her sitting in front of the TV, or in front of her computer playing games online, or sleeping. I've suggested teaching her again, but she's not really interested anymore.

She still does some stuff, like going to my aunt and uncle's to keep an eye on my cousins, and she's still happy, but... I get the sense that she's starting to give up, and I hate seeing that.
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From:jaded_dreamer
Date:June 2nd, 2004 01:03 am (UTC)
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That was without a doubt the most sobering thing I have read in a while, but it reminded me of how precious a life well-lived really is. Thank you for this wonderfully written entry, and know that you are in my thoughts.
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From:lala
Date:June 2nd, 2004 01:26 am (UTC)
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is it awful that i can see your uncle's side?

i'm so tired of it all...the pills. the surgeries. the doctors. the hospitals. the constant monitoring of my own health, vital signs, symptoms, treatments. and for what? in the long run, nothing. a lot of wasted time with the same results. i just...can't do it any more. i don't want to. living in pain...being sick...being exhausted and depressed all the time...how is that living? and the medications...the treatments...just make all of that more VIVID.

but every now and then, i get a reminder to fight. not because i want to. but because someone else wants me to. who cares about the why of it though, right?

it's not that i think it's okay to put other people through my misery; i'm pretty sure i'd slice upwards before i'd spend another 15 years in the state of mind you describe your uncle being in. your anger is most certainly justified. i mean, what's the point of him climbing the cross if you're not going to watch him pound the nails in?

why not walk away?
what's the worst that could happen...that hasn't already?
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From:zaliness
Date:June 2nd, 2004 03:40 pm (UTC)
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*hugs*
thanks.
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From:hiv_aids_poz
Date:September 2nd, 2004 05:43 am (UTC)

Sorry To Hear

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I am sorry and feel bad, watching anyone die with a major disease is not fun. I watched a minor girlfriend pass on without much suffering.

May love and compassion stay in your heart, thanks for sharing your tory.

I got HIV from open heart surgery in the 80s (was told I needed it to live)...

My HIV/AIDS web diary is on http://hiv-aids.blog-city.com :)
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 24th, 2005 04:31 am (UTC)

Baaaah

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I'm sorry that Tommy's gone and for your perception of his being (or lack there of). I was pokin' around and found your journal. I looked for something about Tom and well, here it is, huh? I am really lucky to have met him. I've been an HIV/AIDS case manager for 8 years now. Burnout's catchin' up, but I'm still running. It's wonderful that you and Gini are together and that I'm not caught in the way (that was a bit painful). I've got a great husband and am the proud mom to 3 wonderful pups (Rover just turned 15!!!). How's that for succinct? It's nice to say hi. -Michelle
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From:indelikatt
Date:December 28th, 2005 03:09 am (UTC)
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It's sad, really....

My mother has dealt with fibromyalgia for her whole life....her mother couldn't push her out of the womb because my mom's foot was lodged into a weak spot in my grandmother's uterus. She's got high blood pressure from a toxemic pregnancy (the twins she was carrying both died). She had breast cancer in 94, went into remission, and has been free ever since. Diabetes hit because of one of the chemo drugs. Two car accidents later and she was still plugging....But my dad has declared the past 30 years of his life (and note, this is my parents thirieth anniversary today) the worst of his life. She doesn't want to try anymore.

I'm sorry for your uncle. I've given up on caring like that myself...until somebody forced me to. It's hard on everybody.
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From:lacey
Date:January 2nd, 2006 03:31 pm (UTC)
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I'm 18 years old, and I have had Fibromyalgia for over 9 of them. I can't imagine your mother's strength though... chugging away through all that. Here I am, whining about my hip killing me, but look at what your mother did.

You're right; it IS hard on everyone.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 2nd, 2006 10:34 pm (UTC)
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I've got arthritis and am 18 years old too. I whine about my hip a LOT....heh.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:15 am (UTC)
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Heh. My right one is the worst, but knees are a problem also. I'm hoping it'll stop soon, because it was raining a lot today.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:16 am (UTC)
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Same here, actually. I have a reactive kind of arthritis and it sucks...
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:19 am (UTC)
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Reactive? Arthritis? Like reactive to weather or different environments?
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:20 am (UTC)
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It's reactive to everything, basically. Genetic too, aren't i LUCKY.

*swears*
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:24 am (UTC)
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Son of a bitch. How long have you had it? I got mine around 1997.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:26 am (UTC)
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This has been going on since...2000, i think. There were a few symptoms before then, but not many.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:28 am (UTC)
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I'm sorry, man. That's a bitch. Do you know any others our age that have stuff like this? You're the only one i've seen around.. internet or no.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:31 am (UTC)
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There are groups of people.....I know there are the Spondylytis boards (Spondylo arthritis is what I have) and there are a lot of teens and young adults on there. Other than that, I bet some googling would help you find whatever you were looking for.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:37 am (UTC)
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Yeah... I haven't actively searched for it, but if I were to I bet I could find a lot more people. Just unusual to see people our age with this shit.

Haha, speaking of google, have you ever heard of justfuckinggoogleit.com ? :D
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:39 am (UTC)
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HAH!

That officially rocks face.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:42 am (UTC)
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Doesn't it? I love shit like that.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:44 am (UTC)
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Ah yes. That and the joys of the LJ Latest Posts stream. I have found SO much random crap like that it's not even funny.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:52 am (UTC)
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I love the total and abject randomness of all those posts jumbled together! I haven't looked at it in forever, but I remember always getting a kick out of it.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 03:55 am (UTC)
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Bottle butt.

You must have missed that.

Some picture of a guy with a bottle up his ass. I swear, i'm scarred for life...
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:02 am (UTC)
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Oh my god. PLEASE tell me you're joking. I know you're not, though.... that's JUST the kind of shit you see here on LJ. Was it like a BIG bottle?
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:04 am (UTC)
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'bout the size of a two liter, I think.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:08 am (UTC)
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!

Liiiiike... how far up are we talking? Maybe you sholdn't answer that... i'm not sure I wanna' know.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:11 am (UTC)
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:17 am (UTC)
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I wanted to know.... and now I wish I didn't!
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:19 am (UTC)
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We all do it. It happens.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:21 am (UTC)
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True! It's human nature.
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:23 am (UTC)
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Jah.

Say, that's amusing. You live in KY and I live in WV. Heh. Wanna be on my f-list? I can always use more friends.
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:26 am (UTC)

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That sounds excellent to me. Pleased to meetcha!
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From:indelikatt
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:26 am (UTC)
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*sticks out her hand*

Same to you!
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From:lacey
Date:January 3rd, 2006 04:31 am (UTC)
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hehe
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